*Official* India Tour of Australia 2018/19

[GoodAreasShane]

Yup.

Lock the thread. I've pwned all the crybabies anyway.

Peace Out.

Are you 12

 

[OverratedSanity]

Kw definitely misunderstood by the aussies here. Triggered so easily it's pathetic.

 

[TheJediBrah]

India last won a test match in Bangladesh way back in 2010( and also played a solitary test match against them for the duration of the current ranking period). Against SL, it is not as simple as SL being weak, because SL has thrashed many teams in their backyard, Aus 3-0, SA 2-0 and Pak 2-0(in UAE). Perhaps India was too good when playing SL. And India does not get to play a weak Pakistan either.
India's high ranking is due to their domination of SENA countries in India and not much down to their performance against other Asian countries.

I don't really see how this is relevant, and I still think you're missing the point. SL beating Aus and SA in SL is a perfect example that supports Stephen's point.

India's performance against other Asian countries in the last tour circle - 5 win 0 loss

India's performance against SENA countries in India (last tour circle) - 12 win 1 loss

That also directly supports what I've been saying. India will pretty much win every home game against non-Asian sides because they're not used to the conditions, and you'd expect them to win pretty much every game (home or away) against other Asian sides/West Indies. You can't say something similar about England, SA or Aus because for them even touring weaker sides like Ban and SL can be a challenge due to the conditions.

 

[stephen]

Sigh....

He responded to this

With this

With malevolent intentions, he tried (and failed) to show that I claimed Ashwin blew away Lyon when it is very clear to anyone who has Grade V English skills and even some basic knowledge of recent cricketing history that that post referred to Ashwin vs Maharaj.

And now all his 'thankers' are left to to pulling mental gymnastics to still claim that I compared Ashwin to so called 'best offspinner' in the world.

Actually, you said that Maharaj was better than Lyon in South Africa and that Ashwin was better than Maharaj in South Africa so therefore Ashwin was better than Lyon.

The truth is that Lyon performed as well as Ashwin in India and has in the last five years shown that he's ahead of, or at least at the same level as Ashwin.

Last 5 years, tests involving Lyon + Ashwin:

R Ashwin (INDIA) 39 wickets 33.53 ave 2.70 econ 74.4 strike rate
NM Lyon (AUS) 38 wickets 31.57 ave 3.07 econ 61.5 strike rate

If Ashwin being better than Maharaj and Maharaj being better than Lyon proves anything, it's that Maharaj is better in South Africa than Lyon.

 

[cnerd123]

Kw definitely misunderstood by the aussies here. Triggered so easily it's pathetic.

Yea the Aussies on here are remarkably thin skinned. It's an embarrassment really.

 

[stephen]

Smith made Bancroft rub sandpaper on the ball instead of doing it himself like Faf.

Game Set Match.

Except he didn't.

The investigation revealed that the closest Smith got to the whole affair was seeing Warner and Bancroft plotting and leaving them alone rather than stopping them.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Actually, you said that Maharaj was better than Lyon in South Africa and that Ashwin was better than Maharaj in South Africa so therefore Ashwin was better than Lyon.

did he actually say that though . . .

 

[OverratedSanity]

Actually, you said that Maharaj was better than Lyon in South Africa and that Ashwin was better than Maharaj in South Africa so therefore Ashwin was better than Lyon.

The truth is that Lyon performed as well as Ashwin in India and has in the last five years shown that he's ahead of, or at least at the same level as Ashwin.

Last 5 years, tests involving Lyon + Ashwin:

R Ashwin (INDIA) 39 wickets 33.53 ave 2.70 econ 74.4 strike rate
NM Lyon (AUS) 38 wickets 31.57 ave 3.07 econ 61.5 strike rate

If Ashwin being better than Maharaj and Maharaj being better than Lyon proves anything, it's that Maharaj is better in South Africa than Lyon.

But Ashwin is bowling to Steve " best since Bradman" Smith. And Lyon bowls to the a lineup whose best batsman averaged 9 in a series just like you yourself said. Can't have it both ways.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yea the Aussies on here are remarkably thin skinned. It's an embarrassment really.

We can add thin skinned to the list of characteristics (along with "dishonest") Australians are statistically likely to possess.

 

[stephen]

Yea the Aussies on here are remarkably thin skinned. It's an embarrassment really.

Yeah who wants to hold posters up to a standard where they have to pay attention to reality? Doing so is remarkably thin skinned.

 

[TheJediBrah]

It pains me to say it but I think Lyon is probably better than Ashwin in most conditions these days

They're both ATVG offies though

 

[stephen]

did he actually say that though . . .

He said Lyon couldn't be the best offspinner in the world because Ashwin > Maharaj > Lyon.

Since Maharaj isn't an offspinner, it's the only implication that could be drawn.

 

[the big bambino]

Sigh....

He responded to this

With this

With malevolent intentions, he tried (and failed) to show that I claimed Ashwin blew away Lyon when it is very clear to anyone who has Grade V English skills and even some basic knowledge of recent cricketing history that that post referred to Ashwin vs Maharaj.

And now all his 'thankers' are left to to pulling mental gymnastics to still claim that I compared Ashwin to so called 'best offspinner' in the world.

Bloke can’t write what he means. Blames others not comprehending.

 

[cnerd123]

Except he didn't.

The investigation revealed that the closest Smith got to the whole affair was seeing Warner and Bancroft plotting and leaving them alone rather than stopping them.

Don't you give credit to a captain for leading a side to victory and blame them for a defeat?

Because if so you're being inconsistent by giving Smith a clear pass for his side cheating under his leadership. It's absolutely a failure of his captaincy and he is to blame. If it is not then he doesn't get credited with any of the achievements of the side under his leadership either, since that's just the players doing everything when he watches on powerless.

 

[Gnske]

Can I just add something

I just want to say how much I love and would get on my knees for Virat Kohli. It takes so much humility, so much power to give up legroom on a jetliner to two lowly plebs who aren't even on the Forbes 100. Such great authority, I hope journalists everywhere just don't shut up about this great act. Right up there with the great men of history, and women of revisionist history.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Don't you give credit to a captain for leading a side to victory and blame them for a defeat?

Because if so you're being inconsistent by giving Smith a clear pass for his side cheating under his leadership. It's absolutely a failure of his captaincy and he is to blame. If it is not then he doesn't get credited with any of the achievements of the side under his leadership either, since that's just the players doing everything when he watches on powerless.

This has nothing to do with what anyone said. Stephen didn't say that Smith was completely blameless, or that he was a good captain. Did you even read what he said and what he was responding to?

The posting in this thread has been atrocious

 

[Burgey]

I don’t think anyone is giving him a pass on it. They’re simply clarifying his role in the whole sorry mess.

If Smith had told Bancroft and Warner not to, yet they’d gone out and used the sandpaper, then he’s still got some responsibility as captain and imo anyway shouldn’t be in that role.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I just want to say how much I love and would get on my knees for Virat Kohli.

Oh I'm sure you would

 

[OverratedSanity]

I don’t think anyone is giving him a pass on it. They’re simply clarifying his role in the whole sorry mess.

If Smith had told Bancroft and Warner not to, yet they’d gone out and used the sandpaper, then he’s still got some responsibility as captain and imo anyway shouldn’t be in that role.

You're right. But I've literally heard Stephen and GotSpin and other aussie posters say "Smith did nothing wrong" repeatedly. Embarrassing posting.

 

[Starfighter]

Bloke can’t write what he means. Blames others not comprehending.

Yeah. If you're so proud of your fifth grade English skills you might want to learn to write a sentence that actually parses unambiguously rather than being very open to interpretation. Communication is more than just grammar. But I suppose that goes out the window when you're trying to be a snarky ****.