Australian Domestic Season 2018/19

[NotMcKenzie]

Bancroft [...] will get another shot when Langer steps in

ftfy

 

[Second Spitter]

Hope he gets lots of "time in the middle" before he gets picked because, you know, that's pretty important.

 

[Dan]

He played some nice cover drives though

Character > Cover Drives in JL's Straya m8

 

[GotSpin]

Pure speculation on my behalf but let's roll with it as it's more fun that way

Everything that I've seen from Warner & his family screams out "damage control" and the powers that be know it plus he's on the nose with the public so he's gone

Team wanted him punted from the hotel and I think that speaks volumes

Bancroft, at best, is guilty of temporary insanity (I don't believe that) and is expendable anyway but might get another shot if Langer steps in

Smith will be back & he's the only one that I feel remotely sorry for

Smith didn't directly do anything other than not being unable to control Warner

 

[the big bambino]

Smith didn't directly do anything other than not being unable to control Warner

Apart from the length of the bans I don't feel sorry for Smith. He's meant to be able to control his players. Bloke I feel sorry for is Bancroft as I think he was exploited.

 

[Spikey]

remember when warner started being a lot more quiet on field and he was mocked by his teammates

 

[Gnske]

Smith didn't directly do anything other than not being unable to control Warner

I think that press conference counts as a big fat mistake tbh.

 

[GotSpin]

I think that press conference counts as a big fat mistake tbh.

In terms of conspiring to cheat, he didn't do it. That conference was diabolical though

 

[stephen]

I think that press conference counts as a big fat mistake tbh.

Yep Smith is mostly being punished for that press conference, not for anything else really. If he had have shut up and let the spin doctors get to it he'd probably only have copped the one or two match ban.

 

[GotSpin]

Reading about Pattinson's road to recovery is impressive

 

[Biryani Pillow]

Smith didn't directly do anything other than not being unable to control Warner

You're captain.

You have a major say in the culture of a team - actually, you have the dominant word.

Smith is very culpable for what happened.

 

[GotSpin]

Stripped of the captaincy and a couple tests out of the team would and should have been enough

 

[stephen]

Yep it was a failure of captaincy, not a failure of his character (though covering it up was).

Stripped of the captaincy and a couple of tests should have been enough.

 

[Spikey]

I think that press conference counts as a big fat mistake tbh.

bigger mistake from the team manager, coach in allowing them to do it tbh

 

[Second Spitter]

Does anybody honestly believe this thing was a one-off incident? And that Smith possibly wasn't aware of the other occasions took place?

 

[Starfighter]

You're captain.

You have a major say in the culture of a team - actually, you have the dominant word.

Smith is very culpable for what happened.

It's the job of those who appoint the captain to appoint someone who is fit for the role. Sometimes captains have no control over the team if things begin to turn south, like John Goddard when he captained WI in Australia in '51/'52 and the team fell to pieces with inter-island rivalries. Or Kim Hughes' inability to control the egotistical dickheads Lillee and Marsh. The captain is the authority only as long as others respect that, and people can and do break that.

 

[stephen]

Does anybody honestly believe this thing was a one-off incident? And that Smith possibly wasn't aware of the other occasions took place?

Do you honestly believe that such terrible execution is the handiwork of people who had done it before?

 

[Gnske]

bigger mistake from the team manager, coach in allowing them to do it tbh

I've spent months trying to imagine how that conversation between Smith/Bancroft and their media/manager person who briefs them before pressers went.

 

[Biryani Pillow]

It's the job of those who appoint the captain to appoint someone who is fit for the role. Sometimes captains have no control over the team if things begin to turn south, like John Goddard when he captained WI in Australia in '51/'52 and the team fell to pieces with inter-island rivalries. Or Kim Hughes' inability to control the egotistical dickheads Lillee and Marsh. The captain is the authority only as long as others respect that, and people can and do break that.

Ever heard the term the buck stops here?
.
In this case it stops with the captain who could, and should, have stopped the behaviour.

 

[Starfighter]

Ever heard the term the buck stops here?
.
In this case it stops with the captain who could, and should, have stopped the behaviour.

You can say that, but real experiences throughout history show something different. Platitudes are just platitudes.