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DoG's Top 100 Test Bowlers Countdown Thread 100-1
- Thread starter Days of Grace
- Start date
Brian Lara
School Boy/Girl Captain
Surely kallis. He would get a boost from sheer volume of wickets.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
If Marshall is going to be one them at least half a dozen more have a case. Hadlee, Pollock, Dev, Imran, Miller who have all attained 600+ bowling points as seen in the list and they will all surely score higher than Marshall in batting.
Teuton
International Captain
Any system based purely on stats would have to rank Turner highly - 101 wkts in 17 tests @ 16 (4th best wkts/match of anyone that counts) and all against England who probably were a quality team at that time, even in bowler friendly conditions.
Loving this countdown too btw.
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Days of Grace
International Captain
The answer was Shakib Al Hasan, who has batting and bowling ratings above 600 but doesn't make the top 100 in either (yet).
Here are a list of allrounders who have 500 points in both disciplines (note: I haven't fully adjusted their stats yet so these are provisional)
Imran Khan
GS Sobers
IT Botham
JH Kallis
SM Pollock
N Kapil Dev
Shakib Al Hasan
CL Cairns
KR Miller
GA Faulkner
AW Greig
Mushtaq Mohammad
TL Goddard
DL Vettori
A Flintoff
Asif Iqbal
W Rhodes
MA Noble
BA Stokes
Here are a list of allrounders who have 500 points in both disciplines (note: I haven't fully adjusted their stats yet so these are provisional)
Imran Khan
GS Sobers
IT Botham
JH Kallis
SM Pollock
N Kapil Dev
Shakib Al Hasan
CL Cairns
KR Miller
GA Faulkner
AW Greig
Mushtaq Mohammad
TL Goddard
DL Vettori
A Flintoff
Asif Iqbal
W Rhodes
MA Noble
BA Stokes
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smash84
The Tiger King
Good guess
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Shakib WAG
Days of Grace
International Captain
Batting: 554
Bowling: 459
Days of Grace
International Captain
No.30
Ravi Jadeja (India) 785
Quality Points: 734
Career Points: 51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvRc6gr6RY
Career: 2012-
Wickets: 185
Gold Performances: 4
5/21 vs. South Africa at Mohali 2015 (16.32)
5/30 vs. South Africa at Delhi 2015 (15.60)
7/48 vs. England at Chennai 2016 (17.76)
6/63 vs. Australia at Bengaluru 2017 (15.77)
Silver Performances: 2
Bronze Performances: 5
Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 21.45 (23.50) 60.37 (59.16) 5.26 (rank 17)
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2014-2018):19.00 54.66 5.82 (rank 25)
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 33.14 78.42 3.80 (rank 99)
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 19.88 58.21 6.13 (rank 5)
Ravi Jadeja is an expert troll. And he has been trolling me all throughout my work on ranking the test bowlers. There is no way I can get him any lower than no.30 at the moment. What gives him a place in the top 30 is his unbelievable record against quality opposition (even though he takes the vast majority of his wickets at home). In time I predict that his figures against quality opposition will drop somewhat but if he continues taking wickets at home at the current rate then he will keep his place in the top 50, much to the annoyance of cricketweb posters!
As a new feature for the top 30, I have given the rankings for each of the criteria. I hope readers find it enlightening.
Ravi Jadeja (India) 785
Quality Points: 734
Career Points: 51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvRc6gr6RY
Career: 2012-
Wickets: 185
Gold Performances: 4
5/21 vs. South Africa at Mohali 2015 (16.32)
5/30 vs. South Africa at Delhi 2015 (15.60)
7/48 vs. England at Chennai 2016 (17.76)
6/63 vs. Australia at Bengaluru 2017 (15.77)
Silver Performances: 2
Bronze Performances: 5
Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 21.45 (23.50) 60.37 (59.16) 5.26 (rank 17)
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2014-2018):19.00 54.66 5.82 (rank 25)
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 33.14 78.42 3.80 (rank 99)
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 19.88 58.21 6.13 (rank 5)
Ravi Jadeja is an expert troll. And he has been trolling me all throughout my work on ranking the test bowlers. There is no way I can get him any lower than no.30 at the moment. What gives him a place in the top 30 is his unbelievable record against quality opposition (even though he takes the vast majority of his wickets at home). In time I predict that his figures against quality opposition will drop somewhat but if he continues taking wickets at home at the current rate then he will keep his place in the top 50, much to the annoyance of cricketweb posters!
As a new feature for the top 30, I have given the rankings for each of the criteria. I hope readers find it enlightening.
Starfighter
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Surprised it's that good, era adjustment notwithstanding.
Also shows the issue with quality ranking in the modern age, everyone's quality at home, non-quality away, moreso than any point in the past.
OverratedSanity
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That's beacuse SL counts as away
Starfighter
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Yeah, I realised just after I posted.
TheJediBrah
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And with one post any legitimacy the standardised ranking system used ITT has been thrown away
sunilz
International Regular
The list became irrelevant as soon as Ryan Harris made the list. Are Australians the gold medalist in hypocrisy ? They idolize Dennis lillee, Greg chapell , Ryan harris and crib about other country's player away record. None of Harris, Chappell and Lillee have even played 5 test in Asia.