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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Hildreth just never made big runs at the right time.

He should have been picked in 2010 when he had that huge season (7 tons iirc, crucial in getting Somerset to equal first in the Championship), but that was the period of the incredibly settled -- and good -- England middle order of Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood.
 
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Tom Flint

International Regular
Dan said:
Hildreth just never made big runs at the right time.

He should have been picked in 2010 when he had that huge season (7 tons iirc, crucial in getting Somerset to equal first in the Championship), but that was the period of the incredibly settled -- and good -- England middle order of Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood.
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Agree with that but those wouldn't have played every surely? Who would have been back up at that time as I can't even remember hildreth being selected in a squad.
Bopara Morgan ?
 
theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Notts making this interesting. Would be amazing if Notts manage to go down. Lancs need at least 300 though to keep it possible.


* Although 5 minutes later and Joverton is injured for Somerset (v Notts) and Rob Jones is out for Lancs.
 
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Gremlin

Gremlin

U19 Vice-Captain
Lancs 273-8 at time of writing... they need those 28 runs to be sure of having a chance of staying up. Very tense for Lancs and Notts fans
 
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theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
shieeet if Lancs had got those extra 27 runs they'd have been favourites to stay up now, with Notts having been bowled out for 133. As it is they are relegated although they'll likely end on the same amount of points as Notts.
 
Bijed

Bijed

International Regular
Haha, Tom Abell with a hat trick. Fair play to him, he's done some handy stuff with the ball this season
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Bijed said:
Haha, Tom Abell with a hat trick. Fair play to him, he's done some handy stuff with the ball this season
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I remember seeing some highlights earlier in the season that showed him getting Vince out with a peach and wondering why he'd bowled so little in his career so far.
 
Agricultural

Agricultural

Banned
Tom Flint said:
Agree with that but those wouldn't have played every surely? Who would have been back up at that time as I can't even remember hildreth being selected in a squad.
Bopara Morgan ?
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Hildreth has been robbed. Should have played at least 5 tests. His FC record is top notch.
 
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mrkwxbenn

Cricket Spectator
Cricket in 2022 and beyond.

Today is there was still cricket being played, "Lancashire are relegated despite playing well. Nottinghamshire stays up despite being outplayed by Somerset.

Meanwhile, Essex continue to dominate champions Surrey"


To me, that is crazy Cricket should be more like NFL whereby you a regular season followed by cutthroat matches to determine a champion.

See my idea attachedView attachment Cricket.pdf
 
andmark

andmark

International Captain
mrkwxbenn said:
Cricket in 2022 and beyond.

Today is there was still cricket being played, "Lancashire are relegated despite playing well. Nottinghamshire stays up despite being outplayed by Somerset.

Meanwhile, Essex continue to dominate champions Surrey"


To me, that is crazy Cricket should be more like NFL whereby you a regular season followed by cutthroat matches to determine a champion.

See my idea attachedView attachment 24320
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I like the idea of needing more cut-throat matches which would make for more interesting matches. I also like it being sort of one division (albeit with sub-divisions) with the benefit of taking away second division mediocrity.

There are a couple of problems with the idea though. Firstly, I'm not sure I like the idea of a CC lasting three years, although it might make winning it more prestigious. Secondly there's the home/away matches concerning the the super six. Given that cricket is already a very pitch-specific game, having two home matches could seriously detriment a team's ability to win. Lastly, I'm not sure I like the idea of a neutral venue hosting the final. Given that CC attendances are already low, having a neutral venue could make for a very low attendance- an issue which could be remedied by having one team at home (but then that causes the home/away problems). A potential solution could be to have a two-leg final with wins by, say, five wickets being worth 120 runs and so having an aggregate score if both teams win one match. So if team A win the first match by five wickets, team B have to win the second match by over five wickets or 120 runs. If they tie, a bowl off could suffice. I'm quite open to overall concept though.
 
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mrkwxbenn

Cricket Spectator
2022 and beyond

andmark said:
I like the idea of needing more cut-throat matches which would make for more interesting matches. I also like it being sort of one division (albeit with sub-divisions) with the benefit of taking away second division mediocrity.

There are a couple of problems with the idea though. Firstly, I'm not sure I like the idea of a CC lasting three years, although it might make winning it more prestigious. Secondly there's the home/away matches concerning the the super six. Given that cricket is already a very pitch-specific game, having two home matches could seriously detriment a team's ability to win. Lastly, I'm not sure I like the idea of a neutral venue hosting the final. Given that CC attendances are already low, having a neutral venue could make for a very low attendance- an issue which could be remedied by having one team at home (but then that causes the home/away problems). A potential solution could be to have a two-leg final with wins by, say, five wickets being worth 120 runs and so having an aggregate score if both teams win one match. So if team A win the first match by five wickets, team B have to win the second match by over five wickets or 120 runs. If they tie, a bowl off could suffice. I'm quite open to overall concept though.
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1.) The CC wont last 3 years. In the NFL each year you get home and away games in the regular season 6 games inter division and 10 games against teams in the other divisions so every year the schedule is slightly different with the idea that you needs to be overall champion more than once. In football Man City won`t been seen as great unless they win the league back to back.

2.) Ok the 3 southern winners could play each other twice and the same with the 3 northern teams. The southern winners could play play the northern winners in a home and away final and if there scores are level after the 2nd game in the final play a third game where and then bring in your tie breaker idea.

I am going keep looking for feeback on this idea and see where it leads. I just like the idea of the season having a proper start and finish with all matches having something riding on them especially the idea that you have to win your divsion to get the the second stage.
 
andmark

andmark

International Captain
Another disadvantage though would be the idea of finals going against the concept of a league. I'd like the feel of a CC final, but the bacon and egg tie-wearing traditionalists are unlikely to feel it as being in the spirit of the Championship. That said, the Championship is barely followed now anyway and so having a final match to follow towards could make things slightly easier to follow and generally be more exciting. Also someone mentioned earlier that Surrey had probably been on the piss having already won the CC when dismissed for 67, so effectively pointless matches could be avoided by having a final as I think you mentioned.
 
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mrkwxbenn

Cricket Spectator
2022 and beyond

See attachment.

Overview
The Playoffs are made up of a total of 10 teams. It would be made up of 5 teams from the Southern Conference and 6 Teams from the Northern. There are 3 divisions in each conference, the winner of each division will automatically qualify for the playoffs. Those 3 teams will then be seeded 1 through 3 based on their record.


Wild Card/Playoff game.
After the division winners are determined, the next 2 teams with the best record will qualify for the Wild Card Round.

Conference Semifinals
The southern wild card winner will play the southern Number 1 seed and numbers 2 and 3 will play each other. Same to apply with Northern Conference.

Conference finals
The southern semifinal winners play each other home and away in a conference final with the northern conference doing likewise.

Grand Final
Southern Champ v Northern ChampView attachment Cricket.pdf
 
Gnske

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Dan said:
Hildreth just never made big runs at the right time.

He should have been picked in 2010 when he had that huge season (7 tons iirc, crucial in getting Somerset to equal first in the Championship), but that was the period of the incredibly settled -- and good -- England middle order of Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood.
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Yeah and instead when Collingwood went, they got Eoin Morgan for their troubles.

Was the guy even making runs in County before he got enlisted for the Indian and Sri Lankan tours?
 
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