Starfighter
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Longevity can just be mediocrity over a long period though, like Kapil Dev. It isn't an end to itself, and comes quite far down my list of bowling qualities.
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CW chooses the best test spinner ever (50 names, but you only submit a list of 20)
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ankitj
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Changing my vote to include MacGill. I completely missed him out.
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Yes which is why it's important to balance both, and why Ryan Harris is ahead of Kapil, etc etc.
Look I'm just shilling at this point in a thread that's clearly not actually about my rankings, and I definitely don't want to viriya up the place, especially since I absolutely do not think it's the be end and all (not yet anyway
). But if trundler's position is more or less "Herath doesn't look much but he got the job done and that's what's important", dismissing an entirely statistical analysis that has him ranked 16th as a spinner, apparently because it's not very good at rating players who did look much but whose Test records weren't any better than "very very good" under scrutiny for a number of reasons is bit like talking out of both sides of your mouth. If anything his rebuttal suggested it might have over-rated Herath. My point wasn't "lol ur wrong my rankings say so"; it was that if my algorithm is good at anything it's measuring precisely what he said, and Herath still didn't come out looking like a millionaire even on that. Not that we should sneeze in the presence of a top-30 spinner of all time -- he should be celebrated for that -- but I don't think there's any real argument to be made for him being top 10.
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sig this
trundler
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Yeah, but that was specifically about the Underwood comparison tho.Yes which is why it's important to balance both, and why Ryan Harris is ahead of Kapil, etc etc.
Look I'm just shilling at this point in a thread that's clearly not actually about my rankings, and I definitely don't want to viriya up the place, especially since I absolutely do not think it's the be end and all (not yet anyway
My point wasn't "lol ur wrong my rankings say so"; it was that if my algorithm is good at anything it's measuring precisely what he said, and Herath still didn't come out looking like a millionaire even on that. Not that we should sneeze in the presence of a top-30 spinner of all time -- he should be celebrated for that -- but I don't think there's any real argument to be made for him being top 10.
Prince EWS
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Get over it. My rankings are amazing.
You're letting your personal political dislike of them get in the way of your sense. My rankings would own it, their depth of information and recall is truly impressive. And just so we're clear they'd also own you on what is your field of study and what is a hobby for them.
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trundler
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It's got McGrath #1 so maybe you're onto something here.
Starfighter
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Is this a (modified) copypasta?
Prince EWS
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It's actually slightly less modified than what OS made a copypasta in the first place. In the original Ikkinese:
Ikki said:
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Finally someone awares me on the original source
Starfighter
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You see, I don't go in there. I can't possibly imagine why.
harsh.ag
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Have modified my list half a dozen times already. Keep an eye out
harsh.ag
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Final list. Couldn't be bothered to tinker around anymore.
Qadir, Prasanna, Herath miss out.
Swann I feel is underrated here. Tend to stay away from the old era, so Briggs, Peel, and Trumble miss out.
Barnes I think belongs on the list.
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I think it definitely overrates Lyon, shouldn't be above Herath.Yes which is why it's important to balance both, and why Ryan Harris is ahead of Kapil, etc etc.
Look I'm just shilling at this point in a thread that's clearly not actually about my rankings, and I definitely don't want to viriya up the place, especially since I absolutely do not think it's the be end and all (not yet anyway
My point wasn't "lol ur wrong my rankings say so"; it was that if my algorithm is good at anything it's measuring precisely what he said, and Herath still didn't come out looking like a millionaire even on that. Not that we should sneeze in the presence of a top-30 spinner of all time -- he should be celebrated for that -- but I don't think there's any real argument to be made for him being top 10.
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1. Muttiah Muralitharan
2. Shane Warne
3. Subhash Gupte
4. Bill O'Reilly
5. Jim Laker
6. Rangana Herath
7. Abdul Qadir
8. Saqlain Mushtaq
9. Richie Benaud
10. Bhagwat Chandrasekhar
11. Anil Kumble
12. Derek Underwood
13. Hedley Verity
14. Graeme Swann
15. Bishen Bedi
16. Lance Gibbs
17. Nathan Lyon
18. Stuart MacGill
19. Shakib Al-Hasan
20. Dan Vettori
2. Shane Warne
3. Subhash Gupte
4. Bill O'Reilly
5. Jim Laker
6. Rangana Herath
7. Abdul Qadir
8. Saqlain Mushtaq
9. Richie Benaud
10. Bhagwat Chandrasekhar
11. Anil Kumble
12. Derek Underwood
13. Hedley Verity
14. Graeme Swann
15. Bishen Bedi
16. Lance Gibbs
17. Nathan Lyon
18. Stuart MacGill
19. Shakib Al-Hasan
20. Dan Vettori
Starfighter
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Qadir above any of 8-16, and MacGill? Interesting. Herath 6?
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