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*Official* India Tour of England 2018

Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
MW1304 said:
Also don't get why people talk about #BatDeep as if it's some sort of team-defining tactic. We just don't have many good bowlers available and our best ones happen to be able to bat. At full strength we have the same 6 bowler set up as just about everyone else.
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Yeah, India has Raina as a 6th and Aus had uhmm Head.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Mr Miyagi said:
That's not quite how batdeep's advantage works.

But is Willey at 8 that deep?
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It's more that Plunkett at 10 is deep, really. It's not like when Woakes was at 8 when they could be six down at the halfway mark and still have a fair chance of the innings being rescued, but they know if it's down to the tail in right at the slog, they can still hit pretty competently. It still gives a bit of a different dynamic to the way the top order pace their innings than if #8-11 was something like Broad-Wood-Ball-Crane instead.
 
Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
Prince EWS said:
It's more that Plunkett at 10 is deep, really. It's not like when Woakes was at 8 when they could be six down at the halfway mark and still have a fair chance of the innings being rescued, but they know if it's down to the tail in right at the slog, they can still hit pretty competently. It still gives a bit of a different dynamic to the way the top order pace their innings than if #8-11 was something like Broad-Wood-Ball-Crane instead.
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At 10 in odi, its a bit of a clutch at straws than clutch like Jordan, though. And I love Bat Deep. Tests would be more interesting than odi imo.

#8 is huge for me, 10 much less so.
 
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Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
MW1304 said:
Also don't get why people talk about #BatDeep as if it's some sort of team-defining tactic. We just don't have many good bowlers available and our best ones happen to be able to bat. At full strength we have the same 6 bowler set up as just about everyone else.
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Oh yeah I don't think England have deliberately sought it out at all. I do think they've tried to sort of take advantage of the accident of it all by giving the top order a bit more of a license at times (even after early wickets) as a result though.
 
Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
Prince EWS said:
Oh yeah I don't think England have deliberately sought it out at all. I do think they've tried to sort of take advantage of the accident of it all by giving the top order a bit more of a license at times (even after early wickets) as a result though.
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It wasn't an accident imo. It was very deliberate and Anderson and even then Broad suffered dropping.

Willey had no claims to selection without domestic batting at all.

But I still place more weight on the 8 than the tail.
 
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