***Official*** Australia in England 2018

[Jack1]

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Talent wise, this is the greatest LO side to ever take the field.

With the bat definitely. Incredibly strong down to Ali, fast strike rates and decent averages. Willey and Plunkett can strike boundaries too lower down.

 

[stephen]

Yep these hard hands on display are awesome when everything is in the batsman's favour. But if there's a bit of swing or seam movement then the whole side looks ridiculous.

And look at Jason Roy pretending he's Brian Lara with that backlift. Ridiculous.

 

[stephen]

With the bat definitely. Incredibly strong down to Ali, fast strike rates and decent averages. Willey and Plunkett can strike boundaries too lower down.

It's certainly the greatest England ODI side ever to take the field. Given England's history that doesn't say much.

I'll rate this English team if they actually win something that means anything.

 

[Jack1]

Apparently both sides wanted to bowl first. No idea why. Seems to be the in thing.

Then they know what they need I suppose. Fresher pitch ball comes on more however and then batsmen are also fresher. Whoever bats first should just try to post 400 plus, it doesn't matter if they don't have a total to chase down. Then you get scoreboard pressure and make bowling changes based on the scoreboard easier.

Odi cricket is getting crazy at this point however with England's team stacked with skilled powerful players setting the example

 

[weldone]

I dont think Australia will win a game at Trent Bridge until robots are picked as players.

England will produce better robots - London being currently the AI Capital of the world.

 

[Starfighter]

Whoever bats first should just try to post 400 plus,

England gonna get there at a canter at this rate.

 

[Jack1]

It's certainly the greatest England ODI side ever to take the field. Given England's history that doesn't say much.

I'll rate this English team if they actually win something that means anything.

There is an option to rate them between the best ever and not rating them at all. England are the best current ODI team, it's also England's best ever ODI team and possibly the best ever ODI team full stop. It's definitely the best ever ODI team (from any counter) with the bat in my view and good in the field too with ok bowling.

 

[91Jmay]

Yep these hard hands on display are awesome when everything is in the batsman's favour. But if there's a bit of swing or seam movement then the whole side looks ridiculous.

And look at Jason Roy pretending he's Brian Lara with that backlift. Ridiculous.

Must be why we've gone big for 2 years in every condition

 

[stephen]

There is an option to rate them between the best ever and not rating them at all. England are the best current ODI team.

Yeah, they're ranked #1 for a reason. I just doubt they'll make it all the way through a knockout tournament. I also think that they're due for a couple of their players to lose some form.

 

[social]

Test match wise... your record is similar to ours at Perth.

You have won nothing anywhere unless you count a tournament won by a South African

 

[Jack1]

England gonna get there at a canter at this rate.

430-440 is a possibility from here I think

 

[trundler]

John1990 and Cow on the same page... it's like watching the 2 special kids at school having lunch together and becoming besties

 

[Starfighter]

Must be why we've gone big for 2 years in every condition

You were 5/8 when the ball moved off the straight.

 

[S.Kennedy]

To not regard England as favourites merely raises the question, who (are favourites)? To talk of ''batting collapses on sporting wickets'' is one thing but the other one-day nations, with the possible exception of India, seem to have far bigger problems than England. To me there are two favourites to win the World Cup: England and India. Whether one of those will win is another question (e.g., mercurial Pakistan) but if you are selecting a favourite it surely has to be either England or India.

 

[trundler]

Rather than being the best ODI team ever, I think this team perfectly represents all that has gone wrong with JAMODIs

 

[91Jmay]

You were 5/8 when the ball moved off the straight.

The absolute salt mine this thread is is completely delicious. Aussies getting so wound up about JAMODI series is so hilarious it is untrue.

 

[stephen]

That six was off an inside edge. I think we need to start drug testing the bats.

 

[Starfighter]

The Crapinfo preview described Tye as being 'unlucky' during the last match. I never knew sending down a whole bunch of excrement was 'unlucky'. And he seems to be at it again.

 

[Jack1]

Yeah, they're ranked #1 for a reason. I just doubt they'll make it all the way through a knockout tournament. I also think that they're due for a couple of their players to lose some form.

Not sure about a tournament, cricket is so different these days. So many players and teams have players with skill and power in limited overs. The standard of batting is absolutely miles higher than it was 15-20 years ago. The fact Scotland did what they did shows anyone can beat anyone really. Whereas back when Australia dominated world cups they didn't need to fear anyone really, as teams were still in the mode of picking players on technique and first class/test ability. Not only that, but batsmen simply didn't have the same skill and power then so many teams were picking their best ODI batsmen anyway and still massively lacking power and firepower in the line up.

Obviously Australia had an incredibly good bowling attack then, but they simply didn't have to bowl at teams with the firepower in their batting line up that most teams have now. England have so much power in their team they are going to win more often than not and probably going to beat every team 9 times out of 10 in a 5 match series. World cups are very different though, one bad game and you are potentially out. If someone told me 15 years ago England would be picking a team like this and had the skill/power in the line up like this I wouldn't have believed it. The mad thing is this Australian attack would bowl good very good club sides out for under 150 on this pitch and England have 154 now off 18.4 overs.

 

[Starfighter]

To not regard England as favourites merely raises the question, who (are favourites)? To talk of ''batting collapses on sporting wickets'' is one thing but the other one-day nations, with the possible exception of India, seem to have far bigger problems than England. To me there are two favourites to win the World Cup: England and India. Whether one of those will win is another question (e.g., mercurial Pakistan) but if you are selecting a favourite it surely has to be either England or India.

I'd take England over India any day. Which means the latter is going to go on and win the whole thing with some miracle performance from Kohli in the final. I can't stand him. But those two are favourites. I would have put SA up there except for a) getting cleaned out at home and b) ABdV retiring.