Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"

[S.Kennedy]

I do not agree with the masks but the problem with Warner is he is such the wanker that he provokes wanker behaviour in the people who hate him (which is 99% of the cricketing world). If you lower cricket to the absolute gutter, as the Australians have been doing under Lehmann, you shouldn't be surprised when people reciprocate in a similar dreadful manner and you are on the receiving end.

 

[StephenZA]

Whoa enough of the double banging Stephen and Stephen, there was double meaning though. They weren't just implying Candice was some tavern wench, there was more to it than that, even I can see that even though I think it was poor to do.

I've never implied that the SBW masks were right (which I quite clearly state above)... I`m arguing that neither behaviour is acceptable or right. And my point was that I find it amusing that some find it alright to bully and insult in one way and it is unacceptable in another.... there goes that damn line again once again.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Lehmann's ''line'' basically divides Australians from non-Australians.

 

[The Hound]

David Warners ****** attitude and conduct and Australia's pathetic sledging from the start of the series had only ignited the Newlands crowd. I found the chants amusing and well deserved. Ozzies should be the last to comment on crowd behaviour considering the racist demeaning insults their crowds have spewed out to numerous players throughout the years.

 

[Borges]

Ozzies should be the last to comment on crowd behaviour considering the racist demeaning insults their crowds have spewed out to numerous players throughout the years.

I agree that the behaviour of sections of the Australian crowds have been odious; and I agree that it has been so over a number of years, to many visiting teams including South African teams.

But isn't this kind of home crowd behaviour something that is quite new to SA? Don't you find that at least a little bit disturbing?

 

[The Hound]

I agree that the behaviour of sections of the Australian crowds have been odious; and I agree that it has been so over a number of years, to many visiting teams including South African teams.

But isn't this kind of home crowd behaviour something that is quite new to SA? Don't you find that at least a little bit disturbing?

Not really because the brand of arrogance and unlikeable character displayed by the AUS class of 2017/18 had never been witnessed on SA soil before. No other team to tour SA behaved in this manner . The SA crowd took notice and reacted. This is not a trend. Many passionate teams tour SA without problems and are respected by the crowds. I highly doubt we will see any SA crowd react that way again unless they are provoked. Crowds haven't reacted like this before because they havent witnessed bigger ****s than David Warner and co. The likes of which I doubt they will witness again.

 

[S.Kennedy]

The Lyon dropping the ball on De Villiers thing was one of the worst things I've seen on a cricket pitch. Just complete contempt for your opposition, like you are a bit of trash on the ground.

 

[Burgey]

You need to watch more cricket then.

 

[Flem274*]

All of this because SA were the first team in yonks to look a snarling straya in the eye and snarl back, and the australians flinched.

there's a lesson in that for both australia and touring sides

 

[Victor Ian]

All of this because SA were the first team in yonks to look a snarling straya in the eye and snarl back, and the australians flinched.

there's a lesson in that for both australia and touring sides

I think that is what pisses me off most. I could sort of tolerate them sledging the crap out of opponents, but once they cried to mommy when it was returned, they lost all my nationalistic sympathy.

 

[Victor Ian]

At the shops I noticed the front page had Clarke saying he would come back for the Aussie team. He just wants to score 160no runs against the minnows* before next summer and get his average over 50.

 

[Furball]

Should just go back to a culture of preparing fast, bouncy decks and bouncing the **** out of everyone. They were the glory days imho.

Would be preferable to the rubbish that's masquerade as pitches for the last few years.

 

[Son Of Coco]

CA deserves a lot of the blame. Didn't they orchestrate a campaign during the last Ashes called, ''tonk a Pom'' or some racist bollocks?

Racist!? After you lot came over here and decimated our Indigenous folk, it was the least we could do. I wasn't aware gingivitis, or gingervitis for that matter, could be so damaging when foist upon an unwitting population.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Are you trying to pin that on the English? I suspect the majority who ''set about'' the Indigenous people of Australia were the ancestors of modern day white Australia. Weren't Aborigines denied status (e.g., voting), reduced to second-class citizens, and stolen from their families until something remarkably late, the '60s or '70s? You cannot very well blame that on the British as you'd been self-governing colonies since the 1850s and federated since 1901!

 

[Son Of Coco]

I do not agree with the masks but the problem with Warner is he is such the wanker that he provokes wanker behaviour in the people who hate him (which is 99% of the cricketing world). If you lower cricket to the absolute gutter, as the Australians have been doing under Lehmann, you shouldn't be surprised when people reciprocate in a similar dreadful manner and you are on the receiving end.

Yeah, spot on. Acting like a **** and then having a cry when you get it back is very unbecoming of a sportsman.

The Ashes: James Anderson says Australia is bullying England - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[Starfighter]

Are you trying to pin that on the English? I suspect the majority who ''set about'' the Indigenous people of Australia were the ancestors of modern day white Australia. Weren't Aborigines denied status (e.g., voting), reduced to second-class citizens, and stolen from their families until something remarkably late, the '60s or '70s? You cannot very well blame that on the British as you'd been self-governing colonies since the 1850s and federated since 1901!

Wikipedia gives a pretty good rundown of the what did and didn't happen in the 1967 referendum. One that tends to rather surprise modern activists, might I add.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Are you trying to pin that on the English? I suspect the majority who ''set about'' the Indigenous people of Australia were the ancestors of modern day white Australia. Weren't Aborigines denied status (e.g., voting), reduced to second-class citizens, and stolen from their families until something remarkably late, the '60s or '70s? You cannot very well blame that on the British as you'd been self-governing colonies since the 1850s and federated since 1901!

You came here. I think if you read through a list of massacres, you'll find a lot happened before your arbitrarily-selected dates. You set the standard when you arrived. If you blokes had showered and cleaned your teeth more regularly, the Indigenous population may have been able to get close enough to you to get some of their own back.

 

[StephenZA]

Seriously, this has turned into ' (atrocious) racism in the past' = 'it is alright to insult people now!'..... dear god.

 

[S.Kennedy]

They are not ''arbitrarily-selected dates''. You were largely self-governing by the 1860! It is fact.

More racism I see? Charming people, you lot.

 

[Daemon]

Stop arguing guys, at the end of the day you're all ****s