Hypocrisy of the "Hard but Fair" Bunch

[Gnske]

Am I the only one seeing a contradiction between the first and second sentences?

Do you want an infraction or something? Don't call him out

 

[Daemon]

I do admire harsh and *****'s ability to somehow get publicly shamed during this week of lolstralia

Even Shri is getting mileage out of them

 

[R!TTER]

Cover up? Lol they've already been harsher on their players then any other countries have been in the past. They're the first to actually do anything about it other than "cover up"

They can't all be the Indian board and threaten to go home unless match officials are fired when one of their players gets caught

Funny you say that, Malcolm Speed would be proud - after all we still don't know what went on with Waugh/Warne & the bookies. Not to forget the diuretics in 2003 & the slap on the wrist.

 

[Adders]

Poor *****......from being on fire with his posting he's gone to barely lukewarm in a half a day

As for Harsh.....there is nothing wrong with this thread, if posters show some maturity (and possibly some inner reflection) then there is no reason this has to turn into a shitfest. You can't hold Harsh accountable for the potential of people to act like knobs. Plus I think I admire his mozzy for this, the Aussies are down and most of us are just circling giving them a little poke and a prod here and there.......whereas Harsh has been prepared to properly lay the boot in. I think the Aussies would call this "keeping the foot on the throat"

 

[stephen]

They have had none banned because CA are masters of doing cover up. once again they have done a cover up yesterday. Only in Australia batsman tamper the ball and bowlers have no idea about it. CA has saved all their bowlers by speaking balant lie in press conference.

You really are deluded, which doesn't surprise me since Indian supporters basically have a board that have been masters of throwing their weight around to protect their players.

Literally no other board in world cricket has gone and doled out greater punishments than the ICC over ball tampering. Even if CA are trying to limit the damage somewhat, at the very minimum two players are missing a test that didn't have to and the captain has lost his captaincy when he didn't have to.

India had the match referee fired for doing his job when he charged Tendulkar with a lesser ball tampering offense than Tendulkar deserved. South Africa made their ball tamperer captain.

The sanctimonious bullshit coming from non-Australians in this issue is absurd and almost makes me wish we weren't taking it seriously.

 

[Gnske]

Poor *****......from being on fire with his posting he's gone to barely lukewarm in a half a day

As for Harsh.....there is nothing wrong with this thread, if posters show some maturity (and possibly some inner reflection) then there is no reason this has to turn into a shitfest. You can't hold Harsh accountable for the potential of people to act like knobs. Plus I think I admire his mozzy for this, the Aussies are down and most of us are just circling giving them a little poke and a prod here and there.......whereas Harsh has been prepared to properly lay the boot in. I think the Aussies would call this "keeping the foot on the throat"

I blame him for not infracting everyone who has posted in this thread and who have contributed to its downfall. He's not usually this sloppy.

 

[Starfighter]

The sanctimonious bullshit coming from non-Australians in this issue is absurd and almost makes me wish we weren't taking it seriously.

This more than anything else.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Not really been much sanctimony from other nations here atleast. Most of us here acknowledge everyone does it and don't pretend our players are better

 

[R!TTER]

You really are deluded, which doesn't surprise me since Indian supporters basically have a board that have been masters of throwing their weight around to protect their players.

Literally no other board in world cricket has gone and doled out greater punishments than the ICC over ball tampering. Even if CA are trying to limit the damage somewhat, at the very minimum two players are missing a test that didn't have to and the captain has lost his captaincy when he didn't have to.

India had the match referee fired for doing his job when he charged Tendulkar with a lesser ball tampering offense than Tendulkar deserved. South Africa made their ball tamperer captain.

The sanctimonious bullshit coming from non-Australians in this issue is absurd and almost makes me wish we weren't taking it seriously.

Learn a bit of history & context #581

 

[morgieb]

Not really been much sanctimony from other nations here atleast. Most of us here acknowledge everyone does it and don't pretend our players are better

Yeah, most of the bigger CW names have been fairly measured here. There's been a few randoms go OTT but no-one respects them anyway. Reddit less so but it's turned into a nation-mongering piece of **** lately.

 

[Senile Sentry]

As an aside I can only laugh at some posters still clinging onto the canard that Harby called Symonds a monkey. He plain did not and was exonerated after a proper judicial process.

Harbhajan is not the greatest cricketer alive but to project Sydney 2008 as a racist episode when it was proven it was not is just trolling.

 

[Borges]

> The sanctimonious bullshit coming from non-Australians in this issue is absurd

Most of the sanctimonious bullshit in this issue is coming from the Australian public and ex players.
Which is why Sutherland feels that every second sentence in any statement that he makes must be an apology.

 

[Daemon]

You really are deluded, which doesn't surprise me since Indian supporters basically have a board that have been masters of throwing their weight around to protect their players.

Literally no other board in world cricket has gone and doled out greater punishments than the ICC over ball tampering. Even if CA are trying to limit the damage somewhat, at the very minimum two players are missing a test that didn't have to and the captain has lost his captaincy when he didn't have to.

India had the match referee fired for doing his job when he charged Tendulkar with a lesser ball tampering offense than Tendulkar deserved. South Africa made their ball tamperer captain.

The sanctimonious bullshit coming from non-Australians in this issue is absurd and almost makes me wish we weren't taking it seriously.

It has begun

Don't you see guys, by giving out these disproportionate punishments, CA is allowing Australian fans to keep perpetuating the holier than thou myth.

Years later, they'll say that Australians play hard but fair and do not cross the line, but when they do, we punish them harder than anyone else.

I say we ban Australia from cricket.

 

[Adders]

Hey Borges.........

 

[Borges]

Hey Borges.........

Thank you!. I knew about that button, but hadn't realised that one could just edit out the portions that weren't needed.

 

[Spark]

Funny you say that, Malcolm Speed would be proud - after all we still don't know what went on with Waugh/Warne & the bookies. Not to forget the diuretics in 2003 & the slap on the wrist.

I too think being banned for a year including a World Cup is a mere "slap on the wrist". The lightest of punishments.

 

[TheJediBrah]

As an aside I can only laugh at some posters still clinging onto the canard that Harby called Symonds a monkey. He plain did not and was exonerated after a proper judicial process.

Harbhajan is not the greatest cricketer alive but to project Sydney 2008 as a racist episode when it was proven it was not is just trolling.

I think most people joke about that. There were plenty of issues with India in 2007/08 but calling Symonds a monkey wasn't really one of them IMO. It was a non-story that was blown out of proportion.

 

[Spark]

Didn't it start with monkey chants/gestures in the crowd in a series the previous year?

 

[R!TTER]

I too think being banned for a year including a World Cup is a mere "slap on the wrist". The lightest of punishments.

He would've been banned anyway if his samples were tested during the WC 2003, in fact with Warne testing positive during the WC it'd been a major scandal. So yes slap on the wrist considering what WADA recommends to other athletes.

I think most people joke about that. There were plenty of issues with India in 2007/08 but calling Symonds a monkey wasn't really one of them IMO. It was a non-story that was blown out of proportion.

Can't agree with that, if he did call him then it'd be the second time he'd have uttered that word. Maybe not a problem for the rest of the team, but Harbhajan should've been sanctioned appropriately. A big if, of course but you can't justify someone going off the rails like that. As an aside I'd like to add that whatever Symonds said, to elicit such a response, should also have gone on record & he ought to have been given the just punishment for that as well.

 

[Spark]

He would've been banned anyway if his sample were tested during the WC 2003, in fact with Warne testing positive during the WC it'd been a major scandal. So yes slap on the wrist considering what WADA recommends to other athletes. Can't agree with that, if did call him then it;d be the second time he;d have uttered that word. Maybe not a problem for the rest of the team, but Harbhajan should've been sanctioned appropriately. A big if, of course but you can't justify someone going off the rails like that. As an aside I'd like to add that whatever Symonds said, to elicit such a response, should also have gone on record & he ought to have been given the just punishment for that as well.

It was light, but it was far from a slap on the wrist. It was still a pretty serious punishment.

A slap on the wrist would have been what happened after the John the bookmaker stuff.