Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"

[Starfighter]

Fanie de Villiers going to be on talksport in the next hour

Did Petrus say anything?

 

[Bolo]

Would Lehman be considered a good coach if he was presiding over less controversy?

 

[NZTailender]

I guess throwing the book at 3 people who have already been implicated is easier than disciplining half to all of the team plus coaching staff.

 

[Redbacks]

I guess throwing the book at 3 people who have already been implicated is easier than disciplining half to all of the team plus coaching staff.

Especially mid series.

Once everyone is home a few more heads might roll

 

[silentstriker]

If Lehmann didn’t know then he’s not doing his job. If he did know then he should be stood down.

I think either way he should go. I don’t see how he could in any way engineer the sort of cultural change the team needs, because everything I’ve aeen, hear or read from him basically encapsulates the culture as it currently is.

I find it hard to believe that a bunch of batsmen concoted this plan and the fast bowlers were blissfully unaware.

 

[Starfighter]

I find it hard to believe that a bunch of batsmen concoted this plan and the fast bowlers were blissfully unaware.

This has already been explained multiple times.

 

[Chrish]

What's with all Lehmann hate? Under him, Australia came close to almost wining the series in India. Yes it took years to get there but it was a vast improvement nonetheless and shouldn't be ignored when evaluating him as a coach.

 

[Shri]

Haha - in fact, if he'd actually come out to the interview and said to each journalist present in the room '**** you, **** you, **** you, **** you and **** you too. And **** you all. Now **** off' and walked off, the whole thing would probably have fared better for him/Australian cricket.

AB would have probably approved too.

 

[GotSpin]

Lehmann surviving would be kinda of hilarious if not infuriating. Maybe no one else wants the job

 

[Tom Flint]

It’s the biggest case of ball tampering since Bruce Jenner.

Did Petrus say anything?

He must have been pulled from the show last minute unless he was on in the 20 minutes I wasn't listening

 

[Shri]

The only way these guys will recover any sympathy is if one of them attempts suicide. This public witch-hunt can't be very moral.

Shut the **** up ****.

 

[Shri]

TOTAB gifting alms to the poor.

And a shower?

 

[GotSpin]

What's with all Lehmann hate? Under him, Australia came close to almost wining the series in India. Yes it took years to get there but it was a vast improvement nonetheless and shouldn't be ignored when evaluating him as a coach.

What about the rest?

 

[TheJediBrah]

What's with all Lehmann hate? Under him, Australia came close to almost wining the series in India. Yes it took years to get there but it was a vast improvement nonetheless and shouldn't be ignored when evaluating him as a coach.

Results aren't everything. There's no point winning if you do stupid stunts like this giving the world excuses to claim you're just winning because you cheated

 

[Arachnodouche]

Shut the **** up ****.

Tera baap lagta hai kya jhaat ke jhinge?

 

[morgieb]

If Lehmann didn’t know then he’s not doing his job. If he did know then he should be stood down.

I think either way he should go. I don’t see how he could in any way engineer the sort of cultural change the team needs, because everything I’ve aeen, hear or read from him basically encapsulates the culture as it currently is.

Exactly, even under a scenario where he wasn't aware it still looks bad on him, see what I wrote about Smith in the Warner thread.

Perhaps there's more players involved then first appears. If so, this could get really ugly.

 

[Burgey]

I find it hard to believe anything other than everyone knew about it tbh, otherwise how do you make sure Bancroft gets his hands on the ball enough to make a difference?

 

[GotSpin]

I find it hard to believe anything other than everyone knew about it tbh, otherwise how do you make sure Bancroft gets his hands on the ball enough to make a difference?

Doesn't mean they all agreed with it though

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

That last presser just fuelled more controversies. Basically shooting themselves in the foot

 

[Burgey]

Doesn't mean they all agreed with it though

Yeah that’s true.