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Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"
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S.Kennedy
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Here is my understanding of it.
There is a sort of escalation factor here. This Australian team have become in the cricketing world's eyes a truly unpleasant side, bathing in a world of nastiness. The DRS pavilion referral scandal in India; the ''war...hating...ending people's careers'' remarks (not to mention the earlier comments about Trott) - rumours of worse things said to Bairstow. Gloating over the De Plessis mints saga. Gloating over England's (admittedly self-administered) booze malfunctions. All of the stuff on this tour, Warner's enraged animal act, shoulder-barge-gate, etc etc. Now, when a scandal breaks, the daggers are out by the other international teams - especially the Indians, South Africans and English who have been the recipients of all of this. It is payback time and we are loving every minute of it.
Compounding that is Australia's culture of moral superiority. ''Tough but fair''. Lehman's ''line'' obsession. Warner's,
The bringing tape to tamper with the ball, bad in itself, is not the worst part of it. If this was an isolated thing done on the spur of the moment (leaving aside why he would even have the tape for sake of argument), it is a two-three test ban in my opinion. The worst part is the premeditated manner of the thing. We are told it was prearranged in some sort of pre-test meeting between a ''leadership group'', the captain himself sanctioning it!
And then there is that press conference. Australia were cheating to win against South Africa yet not once did Smith apologise to South Africa (What if it worked, Australia getting the ball to go round corners and Australia won?). Not once was there an apology. Terrible. Smith seemed to be saying, ''alright, we cheated, we are embarrassed and will never do it again''. Extraordinary arrogance on his part.
There is a sort of escalation factor here. This Australian team have become in the cricketing world's eyes a truly unpleasant side, bathing in a world of nastiness. The DRS pavilion referral scandal in India; the ''war...hating...ending people's careers'' remarks (not to mention the earlier comments about Trott) - rumours of worse things said to Bairstow. Gloating over the De Plessis mints saga. Gloating over England's (admittedly self-administered) booze malfunctions. All of the stuff on this tour, Warner's enraged animal act, shoulder-barge-gate, etc etc. Now, when a scandal breaks, the daggers are out by the other international teams - especially the Indians, South Africans and English who have been the recipients of all of this. It is payback time and we are loving every minute of it.
Compounding that is Australia's culture of moral superiority. ''Tough but fair''. Lehman's ''line'' obsession. Warner's,
When one sets up to be moral guardians of the game it will naturally lead to a bigger downfall when, ''caught with the pants down''.
The bringing tape to tamper with the ball, bad in itself, is not the worst part of it. If this was an isolated thing done on the spur of the moment (leaving aside why he would even have the tape for sake of argument), it is a two-three test ban in my opinion. The worst part is the premeditated manner of the thing. We are told it was prearranged in some sort of pre-test meeting between a ''leadership group'', the captain himself sanctioning it!
And then there is that press conference. Australia were cheating to win against South Africa yet not once did Smith apologise to South Africa (What if it worked, Australia getting the ball to go round corners and Australia won?). Not once was there an apology. Terrible. Smith seemed to be saying, ''alright, we cheated, we are embarrassed and will never do it again''. Extraordinary arrogance on his part.
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Says the guy posting from his mums basement
TheJediBrah
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Nah I actually think this is fair enough from S.Waugh. He was a vicious sledger and hard bloke but would never have condoned anything like this. He's one of the few blokes IMO who genuinely does have a leg to stand on with this sort of attitude.
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I'll have you know the basement is in my name and I pay the rent, thank you very much
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Has entered the realm of farce as media has generated interest from casuals
Life bans are being called for all over social media by people citing “it’s unAustralian, think of the children” and other bs
Absolute nonsense but at least something will crop up in short order to deflect attention
Life bans are being called for all over social media by people citing “it’s unAustralian, think of the children” and other bs
Absolute nonsense but at least something will crop up in short order to deflect attention
dontcloseyoureyes
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When can we start claiming the ball-tampering saga was actually a Russian plot
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Sorry but **** South Africa
They are serial offenders when it comes to ball tampering and their captain is running with the nonsense line of shining being worse than scuffing in attempt to downplay his own indiscretions
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Yeah but we expect that from South Africa, they are morally corrupt and don't know any better. Australia are the guardians of the game's morality. It is a disgrace and all players involved should be publicly stoned.
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Australia claimed they were the guardians of the games morality but nobody else believed a word they said.
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Wouldn't be the first time that's happened during a South Africa tour.
Adders
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Dont normally go for Burgey age jokes.....but this really was very good.
Like I said.....****s on fire atm
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Because deep down most people who follow the game knows it isn't really that serious
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And we don't expect any different Pratters
Shining is worse than scuffing.
How the hell are you going to officiate who eats what in the lunch/drinks break? You can't. Unless you bring it out onto the field, it's fair game. No one can tell someone you can't have a mint at lunch. And what if your gravy at Lord's produces reverse swing up the slope? It's really fair game.
Scuffing is much sneakier and much more illegal.