***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2018

[JRC67]

This series really has taken cricket from the gutter in to the sewer. Both teams share responsibility but the ICC and both boards need to now sort it out. This notion there is a mythical line separating acceptable abuse from unacceptable abuse needs to be revisited and stricter guidelines and sanctions put in place. Stopping a player batting and bowling for the next innings in the same match would be far more effective than fines and the ridiculous points system.

 

[Spark]

This series really has taken cricket from the gutter in to the sewer. Both teams share responsibility but the ICC and both boards need to now sort it out. This notion there is a mythical line separating acceptable abuse from unacceptable abuse needs to be revisited and stricter guidelines and sanctions put in place. Stopping a player batting and bowling for the next innings in the same match would be far more effective than fines and the ridiculous points system.

"hear me out guys, the points system led to ridiculous outcomes that distorted the series, so the solution is to introduce an even bigger distortion into the series by giving one team a massive advantage for that game"

 

[Burner]

Would be much more effective though, can't argue against that.

 

[GotSpin]

We've got our **** in Aus too but don't condone that behaviour. Good to see we acted as CA laid a complaint.

Remember Warne getting serious abuse at Wanderers once.

You wouldn't get abused from the members here though

 

[GotSpin]

This series really has taken cricket from the gutter in to the sewer. Both teams share responsibility but the ICC and both boards need to now sort it out. This notion there is a mythical line separating acceptable abuse from unacceptable abuse needs to be revisited and stricter guidelines and sanctions put in place. Stopping a player batting and bowling for the next innings in the same match would be far more effective than fines and the ridiculous points system.

That is potentially one of the worst ideas I've heard regarding the issue

 

[Spark]

That is potentially one of the worst ideas I've heard regarding the issue

Entirely consistent with what I said was the actual motivation for this stuff the other week though

 

[GotSpin]

All this over regulation is just awful as it is

 

[the big bambino]

Difference both incidents were in retaliation for Aussie players first abusing SA players. The Warne incident had all to do with how he treated Hudson and warner has to do with how he treated qdk.

This is what a jingoist looks like.

 

[stephen]

The Aussie team really needs to look at how Tasmania haven constructed this innings in the shield final. The guys at the top never let the QLD bowlers get on top, even when they got early poles. The Tassie bats played themselves in and occupied the crease. It meant that partnerships were formed and the middle order could cash in when the going got easier.

Being 5 down in under 40 overs is a disgraceful indictment of our top order.

 

[GotSpin]

The Aussie team really needs to look at how Tasmania haven constructed this innings in the shield final. The guys at the top never let the QLD bowlers get on top, even when they got early poles. The Tassie bats played themselves in and occupied the crease. It meant that partnerships were formed and the middle order could cash in when the going got easier.

Being 5 down in under 40 overs is a disgraceful indictment of our top order.

The batting from our seniors has been disgraceful. Warner, Khawaja, Steve and Marsh need a proper paddling out the back.

Bancroft definitely rode his luck and still looks a little shaky outside off stump, but it was a nice innings. That delivery (and lead up) from Philander was just too good.

Congratulations to Morne Morkel as well. I bagged him out in his retirement thread but he seems like a great bloke and it was good to see him reach 300 wickets. I've always enjoyed his bowling style and the bromance between Steyn & Morkel is awesome too

 

[Bahseph]

I hope they chucked that guy out of the stadium and gave him a ban. Look, the SA fans on CW are a level headed bunch. We love our cricket and we love beating the Aussies, but we aren't one eyed and appreciate that they are outstanding cricketers and that all the onfield has been the fault of both teams.

That being said, I know that the majority of cricket fans in SA don't get that. It just annoys me that the cricket has been so enthralling yet every few weeks we have to deal with more of this crap. Just distracts from what really should be given attention.

 

[GotSpin]

I hope they chucked that guy out of the stadium and gave him a ban. Look, the SA fans on CW are a level headed bunch. We love our cricket and we love beating the Aussies, but we aren't one eyed and appreciate that they are outstanding cricketers and that all the onfield has been the fault of both teams.

That being said, I know that the majority of cricket fans in SA don't get that. It just annoys me that the cricket has been so enthralling yet every few weeks we have to deal with more of this crap. Just distracts from what really should be given attention.

If the ICC hadn't gotten all high and mighty with this points system there wouldn't be any of this rubbish

 

[StephenZA]

Is it really that much of a surprise the batting efforts of the Aus top order? In SA where the ball is known to do something against a very very good attack people are surprised by the Aus top order not doing well, when they have a reputation for getting out to and playing to hard at the moving ball. Smith is a bit of a surprise, having been so good, but the question was always could his technique really survive with good bowlers and a moving ball. If I had to talk about a worry it would be the Aus bowling, which has been good but not nearly as effective... I expected more from Hazelwood in particular.

SA have been gifted with an inform de Villiers, and patient Elgar and Amla innings.....

 

[harsh.ag]

It takes various combinations of talent, perseverance, familiarity, and luck for batsmen to succeed on these pitches. However, Smith, Khawaja, and Marsh all failed on account of lack of patience yesterday and it's not something any fan wants to see happen together.

 

[Bahseph]

I'm with you StephenZA. I don't think Aus have been terrible. It's just not the scores that people expect from them after seeing them in AUS. But I hold firm in my view that you have to lower your expectations when it comes to batting in SA. We hardly get roads. And when we have two top attacks like SA and AUS these collapses shouldn't be totally unexpected. That being said, I worry about when our batsman play flatter pitches. Other than Deano at the moment, who has that real appetite to bat long?

 

[vcs]

This series has been brilliant, putting all the off-field shenanigans to the side.

 

[Heboric]

This is what a jingoist looks like.

Same could be said for this.

You are obviously upset that someone dare criticise an Australian player.

 

[StephenZA]

I'm with you StephenZA. I don't think Aus have been terrible. It's just not the scores that people expect from them after seeing them in AUS. But I hold firm in my view that you have to lower your expectations when it comes to batting in SA. We hardly get roads. And when we have two top attacks like SA and AUS these collapses shouldn't be totally unexpected. That being said, I worry about when our batsman play flatter pitches. Other than Deano at the moment, who has that real appetite to bat long?

I'm less worried by this... many of our batsmen are the sort to bat long, Faf is out of form, Amla is not what he once was but still both can bat long, and you can see getting a big innings. Markram is a big innings player, that 100 in Durban is typical from him. Our problems have not changed really. 6/7 is the issue, QDK form as well... Overall we have new bowlers coming through, Our batting unit is settled for the next 18 months and hopefully some of the young batsmen at FC start coming through.

Sooner Mulder gets into the team the better for SA on a long term perspective.

 

[the big bambino]

Is it really that much of a surprise the batting efforts of the Aus top order? In SA where the ball is known to do something against a very very good attack people are surprised by the Aus top order not doing well, when they have a reputation for getting out to and playing to hard at the moving ball. Smith is a bit of a surprise, having been so good, but the question was always could his technique really survive with good bowlers and a moving ball. If I had to talk about a worry it would be the Aus bowling, which has been good but not nearly as effective... I expected more from Hazelwood in particular.

SA have been gifted with an inform de Villiers, and patient Elgar and Amla innings.....

Exactly. What we see here is just how good Aus are without a performing Smith. That is not very. Mediocre. I was worried about Smith tailing off after the ashes and wondered if he’d struggle here. I haven’t seen any of the play but he looked exhausted after our summer and vulnerable in that state on these pitches v these bowlers.

 

[harsh.ag]

If QdK comes back to form, half of SA's troubles will be resolved.