NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
not all doom and gloom - we're higher ranked than Australia?!
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/test
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/test
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New Zealand doom and gloom thread
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morgieb
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Not for long though, even 3-2 takes us ahead of you.
Think that has a lot to do with Australia playing a lot in the subcontinent.
The Hutt Rec
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England should drop below us to fifth though, I’d assume?
I think it’ll be about right once that happens ... I’d have had us on our own level below the big four over the past few years, but England have dropped off a bit ... I think we should take them out next year.
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I certainly hope so, and if they're the same side as we're seeing in Australia at the moment I think we will.
But I have an unpleasant feeling that they'll make some big changes post-Ashes, and some of their new blood might take to international cricket like ducks to water. We've been on the receiving end of some dream starts to test careers before, even if they've ultimately turned out to be short-lived (Joe Burns is an example that instantly springs to mind).
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
I was just wondering whatever happened to Joe Burns the other day!
Yeah with only one home series win against England, and that being way back in 83/84, I can definitely see something unexpected happening ... only two tests makes it unpredictable too. Gosh I hope we can do it, though!
BC_fan_abored
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That session under lights in Adelaide has me a bit scared tbh. Anderson and Woakes looked next to unplayable when the ball was swinging.
jcas0167
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Even if they don't, I suspect the English batsmen will relish the more leisurely pace of the NZ seam attack & they won't have to worry about an attacking spinner like Lyon. I expect them to fill their boots. The NZ pitches should suit Broad, Anderson & Woakes too.
Just to rub it in, a decision on Stokes will probably be made in time to allow him to join the tour.
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Thoughts on this? https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/13-...-the-blackcaps-odi-shirts-from-best-to-worst/
Considering how appalling some of those are, I thought this was the suitable thread to post it in.
Considering how appalling some of those are, I thought this was the suitable thread to post it in.
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
The worst one isn't there, the 88/89 one v Pak at home. White with black on it.
Best is the first black one with the big fern.
Also partial to the 85-88 beige and the 80-83 beige.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
I like most of them, to be honest ...
I think when Canterbury took back over the tops from W Star were our darkest days, but they’ve redeemed themselves from the 2015 World Cup top onwards.
I think when Canterbury took back over the tops from W Star were our darkest days, but they’ve redeemed themselves from the 2015 World Cup top onwards.
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Immenso
International Vice-Captain
Williamson's career record on the rare occasion NZ play a 3rd test in a series. A 20 run improvement over his career average.
Enough of trend here to classify as what-if gloomery?
taken from:
Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo
Does the cream rise to the top once they've had a good look at their opponent?
Of course, the flipside anti-gloomery viewpoint is the more mediocre 7 or 8 of his team mates don't get the same treatment applied to them by superior opponents. Only thought about that while in the process of posting.
either way, 2 match series suck .......
Enough of trend here to classify as what-if gloomery?
taken from:
Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo
Does the cream rise to the top once they've had a good look at their opponent?
Of course, the flipside anti-gloomery viewpoint is the more mediocre 7 or 8 of his team mates don't get the same treatment applied to them by superior opponents. Only thought about that while in the process of posting.
either way, 2 match series suck .......
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Interesting, I had him down as a player who starts off series really well, after our Aus and England tours, I guess.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...et-australia-confirms-preliminary-discussions
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Zinzan
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If we were to get it, White's compromise would probably be replace future NZ tests with ODIs/T20 for the next 2 years after.
I honestly wouldn't care in this case. I'm already making plans in my mind for Dec 26, 2019.
Course, White could completely **** it up such is his incompetence.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Dunno about you but the Boxing Day test was basically the pinnacle of the cricketing summer growing up in Australia. NZC should be pushing for it. We should be in a better position to compete in 2019 compared to the last tour, too, so it should be a corker.
