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The best after the Don? CW ranked 25 contenders, here is the countdown thread

Himannv

Hall of Fame Member
It all depends on how highly you rate guys like Barry, Pollock and and Proctor. If you rate them as ATG level players ( which I personally do) then SA Xi is right up there at the very top with WI and Aus Xis.
Yeah that makes sense. I had Pollock at 10 and Barry at 14. However, Hammond, Hobbs, Hutton, Viv, Headley, Lara, and Sobers all feature higher than those two, which is possibly why I rate WI and ENG both higher than them.
 

chasingthedon

International Regular
I've always thought so, but I was only 8 or 9 when I first saw Barry, so I'll conceded I was at an impressionable age
I have a VHS tape somewhere which has highlights of one of his Hampshire innings - I should dig It out.

Then find a player which will play both PAL and NTSC.

Might take some time.
 

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
#5

Brian Lara (474 points) FC average of 51.88, FC H.S of 501*. 65 FC centuries





Brian Lara always fascinated me, his batting technique while very flashy just looked so reckless. A huge backlift then a giant slap just makes it seem like he isn't in control of the shot. But then the ball usually raced to the boundary and somehow this aggressive player managed to end up holding both the FC and test record for highest ever individual scores, something you'd associate with a calmer, more careful type of player. But I guess they need speed to be achieved and Lara could motor on when his eye was in.


His 365, 501* and 400* were all tremendous feats of both endurance and courage, he was just impossible to dismiss once he got going. There was a very good 277 at the start of his career against Australia, and a very fine 1999 series where he came out of a slump with 3 very different type of hundreds. A slow, career rebuilding 213, A dashing and determined 151* to win a test in the 4th innings(one of the greatest innings ever) and then while on such a high he smashed an 80 ball 100 in the final test of that series. It was a true landmark moment in his career, he'd already hit the highest peaks of cricket but wasn't doing it consistently enough. 3 tons in 4 tests in such a crucial series sealed his legacy. The 400* later on and general career resurgence in the early 2000s was icing on the cake.

He was so entertaining to watch, his explosive backlift - trigger movement - spank the ball never ceased to amaze me. The only time I got to see him in person he got LBW for a duck however, which is annoying.

There were those he said he couldn't replicate his best against the true ATG bowlers, but he still averaged over 50 against Australia and Pakistan, the best bowling attacks other than his own team during his career. He had his series here and there where he looked out of sorts, but he always seemed to bounce back quick enough, his form never truly dipping that low as I look at his overall record. Just the one patch from 1996-98 where he averaged around 40.

Averaging 71 in 1994 and 65 in 2005 is a good indicator of his ability and how he maintained it to the end.
 
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Kirkut

International Regular
To be honest I don't care whether Lara makes big scores against ATG attacks or not, I will enjoy watching him bat even against medium pacers from division 2 counties.
 

Burgey

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Loved Lara. Had a God mode better than any other player I've seen. When he was on, it was futile bowling to him at all.
 

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
Yes the greatest West Indian player of all time for mine...i rate him higher than Viv & Sir Garry in tests...
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That double hundred he made against us on his debut tour here was so soul crushing at the time. He just seemed to bat forever and the West Indies would forever rule world cricket while they could churn out players like that seemingly at will.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
I miss Lara's batting. Laptop coaches, metronome operators, blonde wizards, big-eyed bent-armers couldn't come up with a formula to tame his volcanic talent.
 

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I didnt realise Lara debuted in Dec 1990, played one test, then didn't play again until April 1992. What was the story there?

Such a shame his career didn't cross over with Viv's. Imagine the two of them batting together for a session or two.
 

AndrewB

International Vice-Captain
Nothing very exciting AFAICT: he played the one Test (and did OK but didn't make himself undroppable) because Carlisle Best was injured (on a tour that Richards had missed due to his having an operation), then was omitted to make room for Viv's return for the series against Aus. He went on the 1991 tour of England, but didn't score all that many, else he might have played in the last Test instead of Clayton Lambert. Viv retired at the end of that series, so there was a space for Lara again, and he made the most of it.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
I didnt realise Lara debuted in Dec 1990, played one test, then didn't play again until April 1992. What was the story there?

Such a shame his career didn't cross over with Viv's. Imagine the two of them batting together for a session or two.
They batted together in ODIs
 

Burgey

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Would have been so good to have him out here for that tourney. Viv was awesome in the 80s when he toured here.
 

Days of Grace

International Captain
I think as he got near the end of his career he got reckless in his shot selection. Could still have produced a match winning performance in that 1992 World Cup, though.
 

OverratedSanity

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#5

Brian Lara (474 points) FC average of 51.88, FC H.S of 501*. 65 FC centuries





Brian Lara always fascinated me, his batting technique while very flashy just looked so reckless. A huge backlift then a giant slap just makes it seem like he isn't in control of the shot. But then the ball usually raced to the boundary and somehow this aggressive player managed to end up holding both the FC and test record for highest ever individual scores, something you'd associate with a calmer, more careful type of player. But I guess they need speed to be achieved and Lara could motor on when his eye was in.


His 365, 501* and 400* were all tremendous feats of both endurance and courage, he was just impossible to dismiss once he got going. There was a very good 277 at the start of his career against Australia, and a very fine 1999 series where he came out of a slump with 3 very different type of hundreds. A slow, career rebuilding 213, A dashing and determined 151* to win a test in the 4th innings(one of the greatest innings ever) and then while on such a high he smashed an 80 ball 100 in the final test of that series. It was a true landmark moment in his career, he'd already hit the highest peaks of cricket but wasn't doing it consistently enough. 3 tons in 4 tests in such a crucial series sealed his legacy. The 400* later on and general career resurgence in the early 2000s was icing on the cake.

He was so entertaining to watch, his explosive backlift - trigger movement - spank the ball never ceased to amaze me. The only time I got to see him in person he got LBW for a duck however, which is annoying.

There were those he said he couldn't replicate his best against the true ATG bowlers, but he still averaged over 50 against Australia and Pakistan, the best bowling attacks other than his own team during his career. He had his series here and there where he looked out of sorts, but he always seemed to bounce back quick enough, his form never truly dipping that low as I look at his overall record. Just the one patch from 1996-98 where he averaged around 40.

Averaging 71 in 1994 and 65 in 2005 is a good indicator of his ability and how he maintained it to the end.
No one I'd rather pay money to watch :wub:
 

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I think as he got near the end of his career he got reckless in his shot selection.
Felt it was more he lost his eye which made him look reckless.

In his prime he was so good because he could be reckless and get away with it.
 

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