GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Past Lara’s tally I meant
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***Official*** 4th Test at the MCG
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Son Of Coco
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Can't believe I've never noticed before, but you're English, and thus extremely touchy. Didn't you leave in a huff a week ago because someone else had offended your sensibilities? I have to ask why you decided to come back.
I've never watched the Ashes live, never played cricket at a reasonable level, and barely watch it on TV, which is why I come on this forum to post about it.
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Spark
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I know it seems churlish but I'd doubt it. The end of Ponting's career is perhaps instructive; when it all clicks he's so good that he looks like he could play on for years, but most of the time he's lost just a little sharpness tha you need at this level. WOn't know either way for a while though.
Victor Ian
International Coach
Who is ATG praising him? I just think many fans of cricket love seeing long time stalwarts give us a reminder of why they played so long.
morgieb
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I think he plays here if it wasn’t a dead rubber, so probably.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Yeah but it’s better than him scoring arse all here too
Not rolling over to another 5-0 feels important too tbh
vogue
International Vice-Captain
Yeah...well you can tell you’ve never travelled much about the coast of the UK ... I’d beg to differ, there are beautiful beaches all along our east coast, just for starters eh, never mind the Scottish, Welsh and Cornish beaches..
Spark
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It's more that he actually hasn't looked completely awful when he's been out there, he just gets out. That's what reminds me of Ponting's decline more than anything else.
Mind you, he could play until he's 40 at the rate England are producing Test standard openers.
Hugely underrated, this
ImpatientLime
International Regular
fella deserves it.
he's the only competent top order bat england have and people have been calling for him to retire ffs.
Spark
Global Moderator
People have been calling for Root to be sacked from the captaincy. People are stupid.
Prince EWS
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It also reminds me of Cook's entire career though. He's always been really vulnerable to good bowling early in his innings, and he's had little troughs of bad form a few times before too -- I didn't think this has visibly looked any different to the other times. Ponting was still scoring shitloads of runs at 32-33, afterall. The only difference here seems to be how people are reading into it, due to his age.
I kind of doubted him a bit after the third Test as well, but more just mentally. I certainly didn't think he was physically finished but I wondered whether he had the mental energy and desire to dig himself out of this bad patch in the way he has before, given he's played so much cricket now and people were starting to dig his grave a bit. I feel he'll probably lose the will to drag himself back from a bad run before he actually loses the physical ability to, tbh, but I've always felt most batsmen could go longer than we tend to think if we didn't so readily declare them finished for form slumps that would've seem all so normal when they were 28, so I guess I would say that.
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Spark
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Usually when he's had a bad run though, he's looked utterly hopeless and barely capable of getting to double figures a lot of the time. Not quite the case here though.
I'm not actually disagreeing with your second paragraph, though. It's the mental edge I'm not sure about rather than whether he still has the skill and stamina.
I'm not actually disagreeing with your second paragraph, though. It's the mental edge I'm not sure about rather than whether he still has the skill and stamina.
Son Of Coco
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Then there are the ones that look amazing on a postcard...and when you turn up they're pebble beachesYeah...well you can tell you’ve never travelled much about the coast of the UK ... I’d beg to differ, there are beautiful beaches all along our east coast, just for starters eh, never mind the Scottish, Welsh and Cornish beaches..
