Stokes Arrested

[fredfertang]

How long until the DPP decide that Stokes vicious attack on a military veteran can be overlooked in the interests of cricket.

I understand the carpet is being lifted in readiness

 

[GIMH]

If rain saves us here we have to get him in for Melbourne.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

If rain saves us here we have to get him in for Melbourne.

Replace Broad or Overton if Overton isn't fit.

At least we would have someone capable of bowling quick in the side then.

 

[S.Kennedy]

I was reading something by Simon Hughes which states that the one-day sides have a 'drinking culture' which has infected the test team. Bairstow, Stokes, Hales - Buttler also I think. There again Jimmy seems to like ''clubbin'' and he is exclusively a test player.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Stokes's bowling has been shocking in New Zealand. His economies are always high in the limited overs format but they have sky rocketed here. You'd probably drop him if he didn't offer so much with the bat.

 

[TNT]

Stokes's bowling has been shocking in New Zealand. His economies are always high in the limited overs format but they have sky rocketed here. You'd probably drop him if he didn't offer so much with the bat.

I don't think Stokes would have much of an impact with the bat in this series, Australia's strength is they have all bases covered with good spin, good fast bowling, good line and length and Starc bowling some amazing deliveries. Stokes may have scored the odd 50 but I don't think he would have been much more successful than that. Even Cook and Root are finding it hard against this all round attack and Stokes would have struggled too.

 

[SteveNZ]

Stokes's bowling has been shocking in New Zealand. His economies are always high in the limited overs format but they have sky rocketed here. You'd probably drop him if he didn't offer so much with the bat.

TBF, it's been the most incredibly dry month in NZ, especially the south and pitches are notoriously dead flat down there. Hitting through the line isn't an issue, bouncing it over shin height can be though.

 

[fredfertang]

I don't think Stokes would have much of an impact with the bat in this series, Australia's strength is they have all bases covered with good spin, good fast bowling, good line and length and Starc bowling some amazing deliveries. Stokes may have scored the odd 50 but I don't think he would have been much more successful than that. Even Cook and Root are finding it hard against this all round attack and Stokes would have struggled too.

Doesn't alter the fact that Australia aren't playing a full strength England, so this series needs consigning to the same fate as all the ones that didn't happen between 1989 and 2003

 

[S.Kennedy]

I think England would've been more competitive with Stokes but they'd have still lost, albeit by a narrower margin.

 

[fredfertang]

I think England would've been more competitive with Stokes but they'd have still lost, albeit by a narrower margin.

Being sensible and pragmatic about things is uncalled for

 

[TNT]

I think England would've been more competitive with Stokes but they'd have still lost, albeit by a narrower margin.

2-3 maybe 4 runs less.

 

[S.Kennedy]

2-3 maybe 4 runs less.

I do not think you understand what Stokes would've brought. Firstly he is pro-active against spin which none of the English bats have really been, Malan excepted; he is a superb sweeper. Secondly, he brings an aggressiveness and positivity to the field. We've seen countless times, even when England had that 400 odd on the board at the beginning of Oz's first-innings, WACA, a negative body language emanating from the England players, tea-pots, no words of encouragement. Stokes would have galvanised them. Thirdly, he can bowl 90mph (with that caveat that he relies on reverse swing, which does not happen much in Australia).

As I said, England would've still be beaten as they are lacking in too many departments, but it is certain that they would have performed more competitively with Stokes.

Your homosexuals would've been safe also.

 

[TNT]

I do not think you understand what Stokes would've brought. Firstly he is pro-active against spin which none of the English bats have really been, Malan excepted; he is a superb sweeper. Secondly, he brings an aggressiveness and positivity to the field. We've seen countless times, even when England had that 400 odd on the board at the beginning of Oz's first-innings, WACA, a negative body language emanating from the England players, tea-pots, no words of encouragement. Stokes would have galvanised them. Thirdly, he can bowl 90mph (with that caveat that he relies on reverse swing, which does not happen much in Australia).

As I said, England would've still be beaten as they are lacking in too many departments, but it is certain that they would have performed more competitively with Stokes.

Your homosexuals would've been safe also.

OK so England have lost three matches in the last 12 odd months after posting 400 batting first, how much difference did it make having Stokes in the other two?.

 

[S.Kennedy]

OK so England have lost three matches in the last 12 odd months after posting 400 batting first, how much difference did it make having Stokes in the other two?.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Stokes averaged 43.91 with the bat and took 16 at 31.31 in the summer. Not his greatest season but a very fine 'all-round' performance. Replacing him is like replacing two players.

 

[TNT]

I'm not sure I understand the question. Stokes averaged 43.91 with the bat and took 16 at 31.31 in the summer. Not his greatest season but a very fine 'all-round' performance. Replacing him is like replacing two players.

How many were played away compared to home matches?.

 

[S.Kennedy]

How many were played away compared to home matches?.

Well he wouldn't be appearing away if he is playing in summer when the English season is played!

PS

His away averages,

40.57 batting
49 Wickets at 31.95

He averages significantly better away with bat (by 6.02) than he does at home.

 

[TNT]

Well he wouldn't be appearing away if he is playing in summer when the English season is played!

PS

His away averages,

40.57 batting
49 Wickets at 31.95

He averages significantly better away with bat (by 6.02) than he does at home.

Well he must be absolutely killing them in NZ, probably averaging over a 100 considering the quality he is playing against.

 

[Father Time]

Stokes test batting had come on enormously in the English summer. I was at the Oval & the hundred he scored against SA was of the highest class. He had started to realise how important patience is. He fought his way through to 80 odd with impeccable technique & skill, then unleashed some mighty pull shots to reach the hundred. Clearly our best bat by a country mile when he plays like that. His technique is pure. I honestly think we’d be a far better team with him & he balances the side & is our enforcer. Unfortunately other distractions have intervened & he’s a bloody idiot..!! Disaster not only for England but for the series.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Well he must be absolutely killing them in NZ, probably averaging over a 100 considering the quality he is playing against.

He is not bowling very well but then he is a much better test ('reverse swing') bowler than a limited overs bowler.

 

[Burgey]

Doesn't alter the fact that Australia aren't playing a full strength England, so this series needs consigning to the same fate as all the ones that didn't happen between 1989 and 2003

Agreed. Same as when England won two tests in 05 against a weakened Australian outfit.