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***Official*** 3rd Test at the WACA

SeamUp

International Coach
I think you need to ignore everything he does pre-delivery stride. If you watch where he is at release, he’s walked across, head still and he’s in line. It’s basically Boonie on steroids. The old methods will work better than any funky stuff. Fourth stump line, be patient. And hope.

Just like you do with any great player.
Agree. That is what we did when whe won their last. Think Abbott got him a few times.

But the patience S.Smith showed in Brisbane was something that impressed me. Adding that to his repertoire.

It's those weird one's. Remember Graeme Smith and how you tried to get him LBW. Think S.Smith is similar. It is almost fruitless.
 

Top_Cat

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I actually remember when he first came into the side, he seemed much more like an offside-dominant player, slashing everything through point and cover point, rather than the onside machine he is now
Reminds me of the old story about how the Aussies pinned Viv as a legside only player after an early knock then turned him into one of the best offside players by giving him lots of practice.

Great players are ****s.
 

Spark

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Agree. That is what we did when whe won their last. Think Abbott got him a few times.

But the patience S.Smith showed in Brisbane was something that impressed me. Adding that to his repertoire.

It's those weird one's. Remember Graeme Smith and how you tried to get him LBW. Think S.Smith is similar. It is almost fruitless.
Abbott only got him once IIRC
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Two of which had extremely flat Day 5 4th innings batting. Not a new thing.
It certainly shows you need pace or extreme shock pace on this pitch. Only 2 teams have had it. It shows with 3 results.

Mitch Johnson's spells were glorious but scary at the same time. You can't forget them.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
What a scorecard to wake up to.

Fully expecting our batsmen to fall in an embarrassing heap and get rolled for about 120. Probably with Mitchell Marsh taking 7.
 

StephenZA

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Agree. That is what we did when whe won their last. Think Abbott got him a few times.

But the patience S.Smith showed in Brisbane was something that impressed me. Adding that to his repertoire.

It's those weird one's. Remember Graeme Smith and how you tried to get him LBW. Think S.Smith is similar. It is almost fruitless.
I think Smith is in fantastic form as well though and all the Eng bowlers have truly underwhelmed. No pace, little movement. None of them look likely to get him out, no matter the strategy.
 

TheJediBrah

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I think Smith is in fantastic form as well though and all the Eng bowlers have truly underwhelmed. No pace, little movement. None of them look likely to get him out, no matter the strategy.
More than anything it shows how the Aus and Eng sides are so much built around their home conditions, which makes sense. If these same 2 teams were playing on cloudy green seamers at Trent Bridge or somewhere then England would be wiping the floor with the Aussies. Starc and Cummins and co. would be ordinary with the dukes ball on a green wicket whereas Broad, Anderson, Woakes would be deadly.
 

Starfighter

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Nice to see a yorker. That brings the count up to, what, four for the day?


Bairstow should seriously be keeping up here. Just give it a go pleeeeeaaaasssseeee.

More than anything it shows how the Aus and Eng sides are so much built around their home conditions, which makes sense. If these same 2 teams were playing on cloudy green seamers at Trent Bridge or somewhere then England would be wiping the floor with the Aussies. Starc and Cummins and co. would be ordinary with the dukes ball on a green wicket whereas Broad, Anderson, Woakes would be deadly.
I think we'd still do a bit better there than this. It's more we'd have nothing to bowl against.
 
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StephenZA

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More than anything it shows how the Aus and Eng sides are so much built around their home conditions, which makes sense. If these same 2 teams were playing on cloudy green seamers at Trent Bridge or somewhere then England would be wiping the floor with the Aussies. Starc and Cummins and co. would be ordinary with the dukes ball on a green wicket whereas Broad, Anderson, Woakes would be deadly.
I also think the sameness of the Eng attack and lack of proper spinner; Moeen tends to go from great to truly average. I really love him but have Eng got no decent spinners? Maybe Harmer will become available to them in a few years!
 

3703

U19 12th Man
More than anything it shows how the Aus and Eng sides are so much built around their home conditions, which makes sense. If these same 2 teams were playing on cloudy green seamers at Trent Bridge or somewhere then England would be wiping the floor with the Aussies. Starc and Cummins and co. would be ordinary with the dukes ball on a green wicket whereas Broad, Anderson, Woakes would be deadly.
Might want to hold off on that until Cummins plays an ashes in england.

Different kettle of fish from starc and johnson
 

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