***Official*** 2nd Test at Adelaide

[adub]

England better get Gravey out tonight or he's gonna **** them up real bad tomorrow.

 

[TNT]

Got to make myself one of those Lyon memes.

 

[adub]

Jimmy getting it to move real nice.

But not putting it anywhere dangerous very often

 

[Burgey]

Love this. Reminds me of GI Joe’s fantastic job with the same painting and the late Craigos face being photoshopped in.

 

[S.Kennedy]

I could actually see Cook retiring before Anderson.

 

[DriveClub]

English bowlers not good enough, almost england like conditions but totally wasted

 

[quincywagstaff]

Anderson and Broad gave bowled with more vigour than in their opening spells on Saturday, but still bowling too short and not making Oz play enough.

 

[Spark]

Wrong line too.

 

[SeamUp]

Appreciate that SeamUp. I'd love to expand on some of these thoughts but I'm pretty sure no-one in this thread wants to hear them!

Batting-wise, I agree that of the three we have selected for this tour that could be considered contentious, Stoneman is the one that has looked most comfortable and organised in these conditions and having played much of his career at Durham, I'm sure at home he can flourish and at least give us some solidity at the top. Vince's Test career I'm sure will follow his first-class career, can be beautiful to watch but is just too loose at three for me and Malan unfortunately I don't think will cut it either. So who are our options ? Personally I'd have gone back to Sam Robson for this trip, a solid first-class season and I understand has improved technically since the last time he played Test cricket. As you say it would be nice to see the likes of Hameed and Gubbins score heavily and force their way in, but I don't think we'll have that luxury and one of them may be hoisted back in sooner rather than later.

The problem is there is no obvious solution in terms of players that deserve international recognition, so we would essentially be throwing in a youngster and hoping for the best, not sure that is entirely fair on the player which is why I would resort to a more experienced batsman like Robson for the number three spot. Bairstow has to bat higher than seven, he is still one of our best bats and when Stokes returns can see him batting five and Bairstow six. Ben Foakes could certainly become an option should they want Bairstow to bat even higher and relieve him of the gloves.

Personally I think there are better options than COverton when we play in England, someone like Jamie Porter, who again only bowls around 80 mph, is very very good with a bit of something in the pitch but not sure how he'd go in places like Asia and Australia.

We don't develop quick bowlers and I was messaging Ian Pont last night who is one of the very few coaches who coaches pace rather than just settling for fast-medium typical county bowlers, he is someone I would certainly look to get involved in the England set-up, even working with the younger promising bowlers. We need to develop variation, as you say, that isn't something we can find in the next couple of years.

No problem bud.

I must admit. I'm surprised at Robson merely with the fact that he like others have failed and didn't go back and dominate massively either. Would you put him at 3 ?

I find it interesting. All 3 Middlesex seamers looked at in TRJ, Finn, Helm averaged a touch over 30 last season. Does that suggest decent batting conditions where Middlesex played if you take a line of TRJ's form in international cricket.

You then compare that to Porter (16) & Coverton (22 in unfavourable cobditions) as seamers in division one last season.

Funny looking back. Im sure Vince was in the same u19 team as Root and Stokes and was seen as the big boy. But I think you hit the nail on the head with him.

I think Foakes is a must for the 3rd test.

 

[Starfighter]

Thought Anderson should have tried bringing the ball into Khawaja more.

 

[Son Of Coco]

A bit of swing and all of a sudden Jimmy Anderson looks interested in cricket again. It certainly makes it more interesting to watch.

 

[Spark]

Is this the slowest Warner's ever batted for any reasonable length of time?

 

[Starfighter]

Yes, Finally.

 

[adub]

had to give that one.

Bad review I reckon

 

[Spark]

Stone dead

 

[Starfighter]

That's the length he should have been bowling a lot more often.

 

[Spark]

had to give that one.

Bad review I reckon

Not if you don't lose it!

 

[adub]

not claiming the Lyon Sistine thing btw. Just linking...

 

[TheJediBrah]

How much has DRS taken the excitement out of lbw wickets? You're always wondering if they review it or not, then if it's still out or not etc.

 

[TNT]

had to give that one.

Bad review I reckon

Umpires call though, will they keep the review.