***Official*** 2nd Test at Adelaide

[Adders]

Why no extra half hour?

Aussies do their extra time in the morning I think

Yep, definitely Aussies day........4 down is no compensation for batting last.

 

[Prince EWS]

Aussies do their extra time in the morning.

This makes perfect sense in day games, but not so much here. It's not like bad light is going to be a problem if they play longer.

>inb4 it's due to some sort of tyrannical council regulation that makes me want to throw things

 

[Woodster]

Wouldn’t say Australia are in front by a mile at all! We take a couple of quick ones in the morning then we’re effectively on top. Smith and Warner in the shed so a few quick wickets are not beyond us.

If you’re miles ahead in a game a couple of quick ones doesn’t hurt you quite so much.

 

[Adders]

This makes perfect sense in day games, but not so much here. It's not like bad light is going to be a problem if they play longer.

>inb4 it's due to some sort of tyrannical council regulation that makes me want to throw things

Yeah don't mind me....Doh!!!

Wasn't even thinking of day/night there........Honestly I've been so ****ed up with the timings this test with the breaks, especially ****ed up with the rain break.

 

[Top_Cat]

>inb4 it's due to some sort of tyrannical council regulation that makes me want to throw things

You better believe it is. The Nth Adelaide lot are still a powerful bloc.

 

[Prince EWS]

You better believe it is. The Nth Adelaide lot are still a powerful bloc.

Literally Hitler.

 

[Adders]

Wouldn’t say Australia are in front by a mile at all! We take a couple of quick ones in the morning then we’re effectively on top. Smith and Warner in the shed so a few quick wickets are not beyond us.

If you’re miles ahead in a game a couple of quick ones doesn’t hurt you quite so much.

That's very true when you keep the run rate under control........quick wickets tomorrow will certainly swing the balance.

But......you win the toss and bowl, you're looking to bowl them out that day. Vaughan said we needed 8......I'd have taken 6. But 4 is definitely under par.

 

[Spark]

I dunno about miles in front but this doesn't feel like an even game. Australia are about an hour of decent batting away from having England in very serious difficulty, bearing in mind they have to bat last against Lyon.

 

[Compton]

It’s obviously hard to judge where the game is with any confidence. It’s not a ‘standard’ Adelaide pitch, and there’s definitely something for the bowlers.

I’d say that Australia are definitely ahead, but a good start for England with the new ball tomorrow could quickly negate that. I’d say Australia are probably slightly more ahead than the scoreboard would suggest, purely because I think England may need a first innings lead to account for batting last.

 

[Woodster]

I think everyone gets a little obsessed with who won the toss, I do agree, ideally we’d like to have a few more wickets on the board if we were to take full advantage of winning the toss.

Does it matter if Australia won the toss and batted, as they would have done, and been in this same position? Would it still be Australia’s day ‘by a mile?’

 

[Burgey]

Wouldn’t say Australia are in front by a mile at all! We take a couple of quick ones in the morning then we’re effectively on top. Smith and Warner in the shed so a few quick wickets are not beyond us.

If you’re miles ahead in a game a couple of quick ones doesn’t hurt you quite so much.

They’re miles ahead. Did you see how much the ball hooped in the one over with the new rock at night? If Australia puts on another hundred (and they’re favourite to atm) England is acrewed. They blew their chance early today by bowling tripe (and dropping Khawaja and opening the game up).

 

[Spark]

I think everyone gets a little obsessed with who won the toss, I do agree, ideally we’d like to have a few more wickets on the board if we were to take full advantage of winning the toss.

Does it matter if Australia won the toss and batted, as they would have done, and been in this same position? Would it still be Australia’s day ‘by a mile?’

It's not winning the toss, it's winning the toss and bowling. It's the opportunity cost of giving up the chance to put on a big first innings score, which in Australia traditionally means you win 80% of the time.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think everyone gets a little obsessed with who won the toss, I do agree, ideally we’d like to have a few more wickets on the board if we were to take full advantage of winning the toss.

Does it matter if Australia won the toss and batted, as they would have done, and been in this same position? Would it still be Australia’s day ‘by a mile?’

I think there's something to this. It feels like Australia are in a better position because of Root's decision, but Australia had won the toss and batted I think we'd see the day a bit more evenly.

I still do think Australia are ahead for a few reasons but it's not by miles.

 

[Woodster]

I dunno about miles in front but this doesn't feel like an even game. Australia are about an hour of decent batting away from having England in very serious difficulty, bearing in mind they have to bat last against Lyon.

In that hour they’ll score what, around 30 runs? Probably not decisive in terms of the outcome, a decent platform I agree. Can’t see Marsh and Handscomb batting serenely for an hour against the new ball.

 

[Compton]

I think everyone gets a little obsessed with who won the toss, I do agree, ideally we’d like to have a few more wickets on the board if we were to take full advantage of winning the toss.

Does it matter if Australia won the toss and batted, as they would have done, and been in this same position? Would it still be Australia’s day ‘by a mile?’

There’s probably a mental edge surrounding it.

If Australia go on to make 350+ and/or bat out most of tomorrow’s first two sessions then Root will know he’s probably handed Australia the best batting conditions in the match.

 

[Compton]

In that hour they’ll score what, around 30 runs? Probably not decisive in terms of the outcome, a decent platform I agree. Can’t see Marsh and Handscomb batting serenely for an hour against the new ball.

Not a chance Australia bat without losing a wicket for an hour tomorrow morning with a new ball and score 30 runs.

 

[Spark]

In that hour they’ll score what, around 30 runs? Probably not decisive in terms of the outcome, a decent platform I agree. Can’t see Marsh and Handscomb batting serenely for an hour against the new ball.

Yes 4/250 with the shine taken off the ball and England will be in all sorts. Anything above 350 and the game is close to done.

 

[Woodster]

It's not winning the toss, it's winning the toss and bowling. It's the opportunity cost of giving up the chance to put on a big first innings score, which in Australia traditionally means you win 80% of the time.

I guess we’re not going to know till both sides have batted, by all accounts we didn’t bowl very well in that first session so that just compounded Root’s decision, that’s not his fault.

 

[GotSpin]

I know it hasn't been spoken of much, but I have no idea if this was a well attended match or not

 

[Woodster]

Yes 4/250 with the shine taken off the ball and England will be in all sorts. Anything above 350 and the game is close to done.

Personally think it’s more likely we’ll get a wicket or two with the new ball in the morning.