smash84
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LOL, this was pretty good
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***Official*** Australia in Bangladesh 2017
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flibbertyjibber
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Well done Bangladesh. Now for a series win.
weldone
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Rahane is better than 80% of non-SC batsmen against spin.
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Stuart Broad
Starfighter
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But Nic Maddinson was? I don't think so.
TheJediBrah
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You should really just stop talking about things that you are completely ignorant of
Easily
GotSpin
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Yeah there were.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
This is just added drama before the greatest Ashes series of all time.
quincywagstaff
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That Matthew Wade innings was a horror show; almost played onto his stumps twice and his footwork was dire; hard to envisage getting in a worse position than he did for his dismissal, basically having to swipe across the line just to block a straight delivery.
I think the really disappointing thing for Australia yesterday was that as well as Shakib bowled, Taijul and especially Mehidy weren’t consistent in their accuracy and were usually bowling one or two bad balls an over so the opportunities were there if they'd just held their nerve. They’d done the hard work with the Warner/Smith partnership but their patience and temperament let them down.
Even as well as he batted, Warner started to get a bit over-confident once he got his century; he played 2-3 loose shots in the minutes leading up to his dismissal, as if thinking once he got his ton his job was done and he had free reign to do what he liked.
I think the really disappointing thing for Australia yesterday was that as well as Shakib bowled, Taijul and especially Mehidy weren’t consistent in their accuracy and were usually bowling one or two bad balls an over so the opportunities were there if they'd just held their nerve. They’d done the hard work with the Warner/Smith partnership but their patience and temperament let them down.
Even as well as he batted, Warner started to get a bit over-confident once he got his century; he played 2-3 loose shots in the minutes leading up to his dismissal, as if thinking once he got his ton his job was done and he had free reign to do what he liked.
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Gnske
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Idiots maybe, not actual people.
straw man
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Saw someone elsewhere kindly point out that Wade's net contribution of 9 runs less 30 byes was greater than the 20-run margin of victory. WAG 
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Also, well done Bangladesh. In truth this win isn't even that surprising on the back of also beating England at home.
. Also, well done Bangladesh. In truth this win isn't even that surprising on the back of also beating England at home.
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quincywagstaff
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Australia have lost more Tests over the past 13 months than they did from 2002 to 2007.
Burgey
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Not surprising. There's TPC then daylight with regards to the batting, and while we have very good to excellent bowlers, they just don't have decent totals to bowl to. Losing Haze this match was a big blow, but even if he'd bowled second dig and australia rolled Bangladesh for less, they'd still have found a way to lose.
The batting was terrible, and as much as I like his quirky technique and think he has a pretty bright future, Handscomb needs to get a **** load hungrier. I can forgive blokes failing if they're out of form, and anyone can get out early doors, but this bloke pisses away starts like no one I've seen since Andrew Strauss at the start of the 06/07 Ashes series.
The batting was terrible, and as much as I like his quirky technique and think he has a pretty bright future, Handscomb needs to get a **** load hungrier. I can forgive blokes failing if they're out of form, and anyone can get out early doors, but this bloke pisses away starts like no one I've seen since Andrew Strauss at the start of the 06/07 Ashes series.
quincywagstaff
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Yeah, I would say the turning point was Handscomb’s dismissal yesterday. Even with Smith/Warner gone, Australia still were in a winning position imo and had just scored a big over of 14 runs through Maxwell. But instead of Handscomb just playing it sensibly while Maxwell went on the attack he tries to join in with a loose shot and Australia always seemed to be struggling from that point.
He really should’ve noted how Smith reigned in his ego in his partnership with Warner and just played second fiddle and accumulate as Smith did. That happens with inexperienced players but it was a disappointing and costly mental lapse.
He really should’ve noted how Smith reigned in his ego in his partnership with Warner and just played second fiddle and accumulate as Smith did. That happens with inexperienced players but it was a disappointing and costly mental lapse.
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Yeah he's done it a few times since he started his test career, but when he does, it still surprises me for whatever reason. He's only young in terms of experience but like Warner he seems to not learn from his mistakes.
It's a disappointing trait. That shot he played yesterday was terrible. Doesn't mean Australia wins if he reins it in, because you can always get a great ball, but you'll be forgiven for getting out if you do. Yesterday was a terrible
look for him.
On the flip side, Cunmins is a serious cricketer. Wise and smart beyond his years. Really, really hope he stays fit because the sky's the limit for him.
It's a disappointing trait. That shot he played yesterday was terrible. Doesn't mean Australia wins if he reins it in, because you can always get a great ball, but you'll be forgiven for getting out if you do. Yesterday was a terrible
look for him.
On the flip side, Cunmins is a serious cricketer. Wise and smart beyond his years. Really, really hope he stays fit because the sky's the limit for him.
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This is probably the first time in my life where I don't look at the Australian team and think "Yeah they are the best in the world/there or thereabouts". I look at them right now and think that for the first time since I've been alive there are other teams that just simply look stronger.
It could be partly because they've played a **** ton in Asia over the last year or so, but of the players they're selecting just look so ordinary.
It could be partly because they've played a **** ton in Asia over the last year or so, but of the players they're selecting just look so ordinary.
Cummins could do a similar job to Chris Woakes from England (with the bat, he's a much better bowler).
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quincywagstaff
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I think we’re seeing the consequences of Australia’s short-term strategy leading up to the 2013/14 Ashes when they went for a very old and experienced side.
It worked wonders in the short-term but 7 of the 11 ended their Test careers by the end of 2015 and that meant a period of tumult due to the lack of stability and experience and multiple new players.
They managed to do OK for a while helped by some soft home series and the likes of Voges having a golden run of form but the lack of experienced, reliable players (especially in the batting) has really come back to bite since the start of last year’s Sri Lanka tour.
It worked wonders in the short-term but 7 of the 11 ended their Test careers by the end of 2015 and that meant a period of tumult due to the lack of stability and experience and multiple new players.
They managed to do OK for a while helped by some soft home series and the likes of Voges having a golden run of form but the lack of experienced, reliable players (especially in the batting) has really come back to bite since the start of last year’s Sri Lanka tour.
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I think the bigger problem was the extremely flat wickets they prepared at home in 2014 and 2015. It hastened the departure of Johnson, Harris, probably played some part in Siddle's decline as well. It did help boosting the averages of Burns, Voges, Khawaja etc. but only the latter is still around. Saying that, it's not like they've missed the quicks all that much. There's always a good production line of fast bowlers in Australia.
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Really, Australia lost Clarke about 4 years sooner than they expected. He retired at 33, which is far younger than any Australian captain in living memory.
We also lost our most promising young batsman three years ago which still hurts (both emotionally and the side) today. It still fills me with sadness to think of his passing.
An experienced Hughes and an end-of-career Clarke would have made our side far stronger than it is now.
As it is, we're probably at least three years away from being #1 material with the bat. With the ball though we're easily the strongest side with the most depth in world cricket (even our spin depth is strong enough to succeed in the subcontinent with the ball).
The leading five quicks are good enough for any side in the world and it's a shame that Bird hasn't played more cricket because he would definitely be considered better than the vast majority of fast bowlers in world cricket today, behind only Anderson, Broad and the South African attack.
Starc
Hazlewood
Cummins
Pattinson
Bird
are as good as it gets depth-wise and would be as strong as any peak-West Indies squad sans-injury.
It's only our batting and keeping that is woeful right now. And only in half the world - England and the subcontinent. Our batting in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and the West Indies is as good as any other batting lineup.
The real weak link in our side is the keeper. I can't remember seeing Australia with a worse keeper than Wade. Marsh was (just) before my time and Healy, Gilchrist and Haddin have all been exceptional in the role. Nevill was good behind the stumps too (not great with the bat though).
We also lost our most promising young batsman three years ago which still hurts (both emotionally and the side) today. It still fills me with sadness to think of his passing.
An experienced Hughes and an end-of-career Clarke would have made our side far stronger than it is now.
As it is, we're probably at least three years away from being #1 material with the bat. With the ball though we're easily the strongest side with the most depth in world cricket (even our spin depth is strong enough to succeed in the subcontinent with the ball).
The leading five quicks are good enough for any side in the world and it's a shame that Bird hasn't played more cricket because he would definitely be considered better than the vast majority of fast bowlers in world cricket today, behind only Anderson, Broad and the South African attack.
Starc
Hazlewood
Cummins
Pattinson
Bird
are as good as it gets depth-wise and would be as strong as any peak-West Indies squad sans-injury.
It's only our batting and keeping that is woeful right now. And only in half the world - England and the subcontinent. Our batting in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and the West Indies is as good as any other batting lineup.
The real weak link in our side is the keeper. I can't remember seeing Australia with a worse keeper than Wade. Marsh was (just) before my time and Healy, Gilchrist and Haddin have all been exceptional in the role. Nevill was good behind the stumps too (not great with the bat though).