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*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Its the spot QdK asked for, apparently. And I think Faf is the best suited to bat #5 for RSA IMO. Hopefully AB can come back and take up the #4 slot leaving QdK at 6.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Well if he asked for it it makes it right (I'm being sarcastic here).
Best suited for 5 is Bavuma who has applied himself well this tour and QdK should bat at 6. There are situations where he should bat top 4, but definitely not with the series level chasing 350 and two quick wickets down.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Lol.. I get it about 100 overs of keeping makes it tough, esp. after two quiick wickets but maybe they felt the counter attack option was the way to go. Its easy to criticize these things with hindsight but you cant move a guy who did well in that spot in the last game.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
He scored only 68 and 1 last game and the low score was after fielding. I didn't mind it so much last game though as there was a big second wicket partnership. SA needed the skipper to stand tall and bat 4, of course he might have failed anyway - just my thought.
OverratedSanity
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Does it matter that much that he's the skipper though? QdK is clearly the superior batsman and it just makes sense to try him out higher up in the order. And that 68 was very important in the context of the game.
quincywagstaff
International Debutant
Philander seems like the modern Craig McDermott in terms of injuries; McDermott iirc had to go to hospital during a Test of the 1993 Ashes as well.
Both seem to have a habit of picking up bizarre and random injuries that give a negative perception of them.
This is probably unfair but they both seem to be overly dramatic when they're injured in the field; when Philander collided with Smith in Hobart everybody thought his shoulder was busted but he was out an hour later taking another 5 wicket haul!
Both seem to have a habit of picking up bizarre and random injuries that give a negative perception of them.
This is probably unfair but they both seem to be overly dramatic when they're injured in the field; when Philander collided with Smith in Hobart everybody thought his shoulder was busted but he was out an hour later taking another 5 wicket haul!
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
And how many times did Cook not enforce a follow on, then declare late and cost us a win??
I haven't looked at any weather forecast so obviously if the outlook is ********* that will affect the call, but with the next test starting Friday I'll be more than happy to see some extra miles put into the Saffers bowlers considering they are a bowler down.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Yes it matters that he is captain. It also matters that de Kock keeps. The first innings of a match is the innings where it matters the least because he hasn't been keeping.
StephenZA
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I don`t disagree with you... but Faf went to him and asked him if he wanted to bat top 6 and which position. QDK wanted to bat 4. I don`t mind this because he has better opportunity to bat with his opening LO partner, Amla, and they work well as a combination. Faf has batted at 5 for SA for awhile now and it seems to suit him and the team. And I won`t start criticizing his man management to much because he is the best captain we have had since Smith. He is doing a great job.
As for Bavuma he needs to show more consistency. If we did not have Markram in the wings to take the opening spot, I would suggest Bavuma opens. I`m wondering if it would work if Bavuma bats 3 them Amla, Faf, QDK 4,5,6... But ultimately, what we are doing is shifting our middle order problems to top of the order then. I say again I`m not a fan of Morris at 7 and i`m unconvinced of his bowling as a 4th seamer batting at 8. He is just to inconsistent. If we have a 4th seamer I would rather have somebody help who bowls good line and length and drys up runs with Maharaj. ... Or even better for Steyn to come back!
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I am happy for him to go on and off the field as much as he wants as long as he comes back and takes the 5 for.... I do hope its just a bit of a serious stomach bug and nothing more sinister.
Gnske
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah I was confused when he was moved there, shouldn't be below Bavuma though. 5 is the sweet spot for me.
flibbertyjibber
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Well Wood can't anyway any more so your point means nothing. Better bowler bowling less four balls at a slower pace is better for the team. Wood is not up to it after the injuries which is a shame but how it is.
Faf is a puss bag who always hides down the order.
Daemon
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Agreed. Misbah, Clarke, Chanders and half the current England side are also such pussies.
StephenZA
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Seems a pretty strong sentiment for a man you`ve probably never met...
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Philander ending up in hospital does kind of question why he was selected in the first place, as he clearly was nowhere near 100% fit.
For what it's worth I'd bat again here if I was Root. Put more overs in the SA attack's legs and aim for a 500 run lead or close to that.
For what it's worth I'd bat again here if I was Root. Put more overs in the SA attack's legs and aim for a 500 run lead or close to that.
S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
England should certainly enforce the follow on if they knock them over cheaply this morning.
Well, not declaring earlier certainly robbed them of victory at Rajkot in the winter. And then there was that absurd decision to bat again a year or so ago - it might have been v Pakistan - where England had 300 on the board and still came out again to add some pointless runs to it.