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*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Dawson passing 5?
That 'catch' being so far from the bat - I'd be cursing the Saffers for cheating weren't it the case that I thought he'd edged it as well

Reckon Dawson's a tad rattled though - can't see him lasting long unless he settles down
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Moeen hasn't looked so great at 5 before either. Anyway this is **** England, Root's chucked his wicket away and you're never going to win cricket matches when no 1, 2, 3 and 6 only contribute 30 between them.

Anyway the mighty Mo is going to ton up whilst the rest score troll runs around him.
tbh I've lost track of where Moeen has and has not made runs for England, so I wasn't going to assume that his record at 5 was poor.

Maybe if Maharaj is turning the ball this much, Moeen can bowl out SA as well as make runs with the bat.
 

Bijed

International Regular
Moeen hasn't looked so great at 5 before either. Anyway this is **** England, Root's chucked his wicket away and you're never going to win cricket matches when no 1, 2, 3 and 6 only contribute 30 between them.

Anyway the mighty Mo is going to ton up whilst the rest score troll runs around him.
I think Moeen only batted at 5 in Bangladesh, so given the nature of that series I think it's fair enough to say he may still have potential at 5. That said, I'd expect Bairstow to get more out of batting there than Mo, so happy enough to stick with what we've got for a while.

Is Stokes at 5 a possibility at all. I can see it not affecting him too adversely, and Mo/Jonny might prefer 6 to 5?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
ffs

We really don't want to stay in this match do we? We have been seriously poor for most of this match.
 

Groundking

International Debutant
tbh I've lost track of where Moeen has and has not made runs for England, so I wasn't going to assume that his record at 5 was poor.

Maybe if Maharaj is turning the ball this much, Moeen can bowl out SA as well as make runs with the bat.
Tbf I could be wrong also, but I thought it was 4 where he averages decently and 7 where he's godly and the rest kinda ****.

He should have bowled more in the first innings imo.

That was awful Moeen :(
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Oh just **** off England.
Unless this lot grow a brain or two and cut out these collapses, we really are totally ****ed for the foreseeable future.

wtf is Bayliss saying to them?
 
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