Players who 'over-performed' internationally

[Red]

Peter Taylor

Became a great LO bowler.

Was a handy bat too.

 

[Nate]

hendrix

 

[wellAlbidarned]

ross taylor

averaged mid 30s in nz FC when picked and was known as a bit of a slogger, i don't think any of the kiwi bloc picked him to average mid-late 40s and be in genuine contention as best ever nz batsman

 

[stephen]

Peter Taylor

He gets a mention in Steve Waugh's autobiography as a guy who was paid only $2000 for an entire overseas tour before the players association got together and successfully negotiated better pay.

 

[Zinzan]

Mark Richardson. Left arm spinner & tail-end bat turned Test opener averaging in the mid-40s.

 

[weldone]

He came in as a replacement for Sidhu I believe.

He came in as a replacement for Sidhu in the playing XI (and also because Manjrekar was injured). But before that he was selected in the team of 16 - and that had nothing to do with Sidhu or Manjrekar. It was a very controversial selection. The Eastern India selector Sambaran Banerjee convinced the other selectors that Ganguly's bowling maybe useful in the English condition and he should be selected as an all-rounder. Harsha Bhogle said from the commentary box that Ganguly's selection was from Eastern India quota in a way.

 

[Gob]

according to who?

Benchmark00

 

[Flem274*]

steve smith and warner had very innocuous beginnings thanks to being pigeon holed as spin bowlers who bat/T20 biffers
voges
moeen ali
BJ watling

ross taylor

averaged mid 30s in nz FC when picked and was known as a bit of a slogger, i don't think any of the kiwi bloc picked him to average mid-late 40s and be in genuine contention as best ever nz batsman

nah he and jesse were the chosen ones before kane

 

[Red]

Benchmark00

Benchmark hasn't posted here since early 2014. You joined in late 2014. Do you trawl thru Cricketweb archives noting who said what?

 

[Burgey]

You can't survive long term on an Internet forum without a sh*t sheet on regular posters.

 

[Athlai]

ross taylor

averaged mid 30s in nz FC when picked and was known as a bit of a slogger, i don't think any of the kiwi bloc picked him to average mid-late 40s and be in genuine contention as best ever nz batsman

Pretty sure he was seen as the next great NZ batsman in 2007 by quite a few people. Though you're probably right in thinking they didn't imagine he'd end up with a record as good as he has now. I do remember the thinking was he'd be the one to take over the batting from Fleming though.

 

[stephen]

I miss both Benchy and HowieJ. Colourful posters the pair of them.

 

[mr_mister]

steve smith and warner had very innocuous beginnings thanks to being pigeon holed as spin bowlers who bat/T20 biffers
voges
moeen ali
BJ watling

nah he and jesse were the chosen ones before kane

wait i didnt think warner was ever pushed as anything other than a part time leggie

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Pretty sure he was seen as the next great NZ batsman in 2007 by quite a few people. Though you're probably right in thinking they didn't imagine he'd end up with a record as good as he has now. I do remember the thinking was he'd be the one to take over the batting from Fleming though.

yeah but at that time "great nz batsman" meant averaging early 40s at best

 

[wellAlbidarned]

steve smith and warner had very innocuous beginnings thanks to being pigeon holed as spin bowlers who bat/T20 biffers
voges
moeen ali
BJ watling

nah he and jesse were the chosen ones before kane

yeah but there's NZ good and would actually make most other international teams good which was very rare back when he was getting started

 

[Gob]

Benchmark hasn't posted here since early 2014. You joined in late 2014. Do you trawl thru Cricketweb archives noting who said what?

I've been reading these forums since 2010.

 

[Bahnz]

yeah but at that time "great nz batsman" meant averaging early 40s at best

Yeah, I think most of us thought Taylor would finish with a low 40's average, so he's exceeded expectations even if it was always known he was going to be one of our top batsmen. The only player for whom we entertained serious hopes of a high-40's average prior to KW was Ryder.

In fact, I just dug up these quotes from 2009:

I reckon Ryder will finish averaging about 46/47 and Taylor will got about 40/41.

Exactly what I'd predict.

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cri...verages-what-will-they-end-5.html#post1869430

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Nathan Astle. Selected as a bowling all rounder, got chucked up to open once and ended up with 16 ODI hundreds (still in the top 20 of all time), 11 test tonnes and the fastest double century of all time.

 

[Red]

I've been reading these forums since 2010.

Why'd you wait four years to start posting?

 

[Bahnz]

Nathan Astle. Selected as a bowling all rounder, got chucked up to open once and ended up with 16 ODI hundreds (still in the top 20 of all time), 11 test tonnes and the fastest double century of all time.

AFAIA Astle started out as a bowler for Canterbury, but by the time he debuted for New Zealand he'd made the switch to batsman who bowled a bit.