honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Wasn't there a time when Ganguly had ODI hundreds in Australia, RSA, England and Sachin didn't?
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Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time
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srbhkshk
International Captain
Yep, he's the best we have had since Tendulkar, his challenge is gonna be exactly what you say because he won't have a long enough career to be someone like a 10k+ scorer.
smash84
The Tiger King
Gilly was definitely better than Sehwag though. Probably more consistent as well (cbf looking up the stats for both) at least that's how i remember them.
Another thing that I would take Gilly over Sehwag is that i would back Gilchrist over Sehwag every day of the week when the opposition has a decent bowling attack. If I recall correctly Wasim was asked in the early 00s (when he was still playing) if he ever feared any batsman, and wasim replied "I have never been scared of any batsman but Adam Gilchrist is someone who makes me think really hard." So yeah, he was quality
smash84
The Tiger King
What crap. You're definitely wrong. In that 2003 WC match vs Pak Sehwag was and looked utter ****e. It was sachin who really destroyed and dominated pakistan. That's another point in favor of Gilly. He wouldn't **** his pants at the drop of a hat. He could withstand the pressure of the ocassion.
Don't mix up sehwag the test batsman with odi batsman
Shri
Mr. Glass
Crap? Tone it down.
He got 21 off 14 and dominated Pak bowlers that day. It was a quickie but it still counts.
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smash84
The Tiger King
My apologies. I said what crap because I get the feeling that you either missed his batting or have completely forgotten it. With a good Pakistan attack sehwag was never the danger man and he was never really considered a danger man because he wasn't that great.
And what kind of domination is 21 off 14. That's like a typical Shahid Afridi "domination"
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Shri
Mr. Glass
A typical Afridi domination is 6 off 2. Sehwag helped Ind get past 50 in 5 overs in that game, giving them a massive psychological advantage. Those things in a chase are priceless and can't be quantified. Same reason actually why I think he is great with really good ODI batsmen in the line up. He would suck in a weaker team but if his attack comes off, the ones following him would make it count almost every time.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Given that Sehwag scored run an ball 80 in the finals of the same world cup against the Aussies, I don't know how you would claim that Sehwag can't withstand pressure, Sehwag's technique was limited, especially against inswing, but a pant ****ser he was not, not by a long shot.
OverratedSanity
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Absolutely. Ganguly is massively underrated imo. Up there with Mark Waugh in ODIs AFAIC.
Sehwag is no odi great though, you guys need to drop it.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Why OS? Give a good reason other than "I feel he is not".
smash84
The Tiger King
What? He gets brownie points for standing at the other end doing nothing in that WC match? Or for lasting a grand total of 14 deliveries?
Shri
Mr. Glass
Nope. He scored a ****ing double hundred and scored 10% faster than any other ODI opener in his time.
Shri
Mr. Glass
ODI batsmen's overall stats from when he debuted until he retired:
Batting records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
10th best batsman in the world sorting by runs scored and the best bat sorting by strike rate. Oh and he beats Gilly by 6 runs in SR while averaging .6 runs lesser. Sure, not a great ODI bat. Get over yourselves please.
Batting records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
10th best batsman in the world sorting by runs scored and the best bat sorting by strike rate. Oh and he beats Gilly by 6 runs in SR while averaging .6 runs lesser. Sure, not a great ODI bat. Get over yourselves please.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Gilly was better than Sehwag only because he was also a keeper. Dats all there is to it.
smash84
The Tiger King
Alternative fact
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Nah.. fact. Your Alternative is to believe a lie.
Victor Ian
International Coach
I think so far Sehwag defenders have done a good job and his deniers have been 'trust me' poor. I'd like more confirmation Sehwag was crap. On paper his numbers look quite good so I challenge someone to explain how someone is worse than their numbers. If you'd like your thingy to keep, fine get Gilly, but why not Sehwag otherwise? That said, my overiding memory of him is as a very dangerous part time bowler, so if I'm remembering him as a bowler maybe something was missing. Still, how do you get his numbers without being that good?
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
I suspect you switched channels like that mauka guy
Sehwag played some cracking shots in that little knock and before getting out he and Tendulkar were looking equally destructive. Remember Shastri commenting that until Sehwag got out it was like bowling to a cannon firing from both ends. Tendulkar went on to score 98 and Sehwag's little knock got overshadowed by the legend.
smash84
The Tiger King
He also was a little streaky IIRC. Go and check the full highlights (I cbf looking at them againI suspect you switched channels like that mauka guy
Sehwag played some cracking shots in that little knock and before getting out he and Tendulkar were looking equally destructive. Remember Shastri commenting that until Sehwag got out it was like bowling to a cannon firing from both ends. Tendulkar went on to score 98 and Sehwag's little knock got overshadowed by the legend.
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