*Official* English Football Season 2016-17

[Jarquis]

ITT : People forgetting Joe Hart was some way below average for quite a while

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

ITT : People forgetting Joe Hart was some way below average for quite a while

Very much so. He was unarguably awful last season.

 

[GIMH]

I've not watched enough Prem this season to know so it's a genuine question - was he worse than Bravo has been?

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I've actually missed a lot of this season as well, compared to previous years, but I'd say he's probably been noticeably worse at points. Bravo is obviously not the answer, but neither is Joe Hart.

The team needs basically a whole new defence. You keep Stones, Otamendi and literally should get rid and replace every other defensive player other than maybe Kompany just for sentimental value and leadership. If the defence could actually perform consistently and comfortably in the style that Pep desires them to, a lot of the GK problems probably go away.

 

[Furball]

The thing with City is that for all the money spent over the last 5-6 years, they've got a really poor squad.

 

[Cabinet96]

They basically have three players in their prime; KDB, Gundogan and Otamendi. Gundo's injury prone and Otamendi I don't really rate, though I accept he could be good in the right circumstances. Honestly it's pretty terrible squad planning given how long they've been chasing Pep. Did they really envisage 2/3 years ago that Pep would be building his squad with Arsenal's 2007 fullbacks and the likes of Fernando?

Bravo has been terrible but it is true he has a very hard job at the moment. His stats are ridiculously bad but the way City play means they concede very few shots on target, but those they do tend to be close range with minimal defensive pressure. Liverpool under Klopp have the same issue. It's the opposite to what you get with the likes of Wenger and Mourinho, who tend to sit off rather than press, inviting more shots from range.

 

[Uppercut]

They basically have three players in their prime; KDB, Gundogan and Otamendi. Gundo's injury prone and Otamendi I don't really rate, though I except he could be good in the right circumstances. Honestly it's pretty terrible squad planning given how long they've been chasing Pep. Did they really envisage 2/3 years ago that Pep would be building his squad with Arsenal's 2007 fullbacks and the likes of Fernando?

Bravo has been terrible but it is true he has a very hard job at the moment. His stats are ridiculously bad but the way City play means they concede very few shots on target, but those they do tend to be close range with minimal defensive pressure. Liverpool under Klopp have the same issue. It's the opposite to what you get with the likes of Wenger and Mourinho, who tend to sit off rather than press, inviting more shots from range.

I would guess that shite keeping is the more significant factor for Citeh. I remember them conceding a lot more terrible-keeper goals than unmissable-chance goals. I also feel like recently they're quite a lot less expansive than I was expecting from Pep. Some really stodgy performances over Christmas.

Liverpool definitely tend to give up good chances, but they've had shite-keeper problems too. The goal yesterday was partly the keeper's fault, Ibra was unmarked because the defenders had to go on the line when Mignolet had a flail. Did make a few good saves though.

 

[Furball]

How do we think the alternate universe where de Bruyne scores against Chelsea looks?

 

[duffer]

Juve's new logo.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I know right? I thought it was some joke at first

 

[Uppercut]

I think it's genius tbh. Easily doodled logos like that have insane viral potential. Just ask Goebbels.

 

[Ausage]

Yeah I didn't think it looked that bad tbh. Just extremely minimalist when most logos are more intricate.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

The classic, older-looking logos are an Italian football 'thing' which is why this is so damn weird to look at. I don't think it's bad but I really don't think it suits a club like Juventus. It looks like an American sports franchise logo.

 

[Cabinet96]

Southampton will focus on the league and league cup but still knock us out the FA Cup anyway. Football is ****ing ****.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I might be getting bitter with age, but the brave Plymouth thing doesn't do it for me. Our performance at Anfield was cowardly against a team that would struggle in League 1 and tonight in the second half showed what could be achieved if you attempt to play the game in the opponents half some of the time. .............and Steve Gerrard is ****ing ugly in person.

 

[duffer]

Please no Griezmann to United.

Please god no.

 

[vcs]

Will make it all the more hilarious when they get him and still miss out on CL.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I might be getting bitter with age, but the brave Plymouth thing doesn't do it for me. Our performance at Anfield was cowardly against a team that would struggle in League 1 and tonight in the second half showed what could be achieved if you attempt to play the game in the opponents half some of the time. .............and Steve Gerrard is ****ing ugly in person.

I know quoting your own post is a bit unethical but Adrian Durham said similar things on talkSport today and I'm struggling to live with the shame of having the same thoughts as him.

 

[Ikki]

I know quoting your own post is a bit unethical but Adrian Durham said similar things on talkSport today and I'm struggling to live with the shame of having the same thoughts as him.

Imagine how he feels.

 

[Cabinet96]

Heard the club you support hasn't done this. Feel sorry for you.