*Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

[Flem274*]

The T20 rankings are nonsense. We wouldn't even be particularly competitive in the IPL.

not sure if jonsooks impersonation or not

It was a well-paced innings chasing a low target. The required rate never got out of control and we always had plenty of wickets in hand.

I honestly don't know how you guys can be so upset after such a comfortable, professional victory.

welcome to NZ related threads on CW since day one brisbane. just wait until you read the "someone is TERRIBLE or a GOD" clickbait nature of the rest of the site, or watson and friends championing/making excuses for ****s

i only float around CW out of habit now tbh

 

[Flem274*]

Hmm, does anyone actually take the rankings seriously in T20s? IIRC they throw up some very odd results and are extremely volatile.

sounds like an accurate reflection of T20 tbh.

 

[Dick Rockett]

welcome to NZ related threads on CW since day one brisbane. just wait until you read the "someone is TERRIBLE or a GOD" clickbait nature of the rest of the site, or watson and friends championing/making excuses for ****s

i only float around CW out of habit now tbh

Yeah, CW definitely seems well past its peak. I mean, there's always been trolls and morons and ranters and flame wars - this is the internet after all - but there also used to be lively, enlightening discussion, genuine wit and optimism.

 

[_Ed_]

Another poor Napier crowd. Not sure why they keep being given games.

Can't believe they're getting Australia and South Africa ODIs as well.

 

[_Ed_]

Yeah, totally dire. He makes it look as if batsmen often need to play risky shots in T20 matches.

And just a few minutes before those two shots, the commentators were praising Williamson's ability to place the ball perfectly where the fielders aren't. Maybe, just maybe, he noticed where those outfielders were standing before attempting those shots.

 

[Dick Rockett]

Can't believe they're getting Australia and South Africa ODIs as well.

They'd better turn up to the Oz game - I'm a bit annoyed that Wellington missed out.

 

[Dick Rockett]

And just a few minutes before those two shots, the commentators were praising Williamson's ability to place the ball perfectly where the fielders aren't. Maybe, just maybe, he noticed where those outfielders were standing before attempting those shots.

One of the commentators - I think it was Scott Styris - had an interesting theory that they were deliberately placed in from the boundary to cut off 2s. Not sure how true it was, but I couldn't believe that the Sky commentary team had actually offered some insight on something related to cricket.

Edit: Just remembered - Ian Smith made me laugh too! What a crazy, topsy-turvy night it was!

 

[Mike5181]

Ian Smith's a quick-witted guy. It's his frothing at the mouth after Williamson does anything remotely good that's annoying, at least for me personally anyway.

 

[_Ed_]

They'd better turn up to the Oz game - I'm a bit annoyed that Wellington missed out.

Obviously I'm being biased here, but it seems unfair to me that half-empty McLean Park gets three games this season and Whangarei none (apart from that warm-up match against a fairly uninspiring NZ XI, which I couldn't attend anyway because I was working in Auckland that day).

Smaller capacity of course, but Cobham's only ODI to date (against that massive drawcard Zimbabwe) was a sell-out.

 

[Dick Rockett]

Obviously I'm being biased here, but it seems unfair to me that half-empty McLean Park gets three games this season and Whangarei none (apart from that warm-up match against a fairly uninspiring NZ XI, which I couldn't attend anyway because I was working in Auckland that day).

Smaller capacity of course, but Cobham's only ODI to date (against that massive drawcard Zimbabwe) was a sell-out.

It would be nice to see more games up there - the pavilion at Cobham looks picturesque

Just remembered that Guns n Roses are playing at the Cake Tin on the night of the 2nd, which explains why Wellington missed out on a Chappell-Hadlee game.

 

[Meridio]

One of the commentators - I think it was Scott Styris - had an interesting theory that they were deliberately placed in from the boundary to cut off 2s. Not sure how true it was, but I couldn't believe that the Sky commentary team had actually offered some insight on something related to cricket.

Edit: Just remembered - Ian Smith made me laugh too! What a crazy, topsy-turvy night it was!

Yeah that was an interesting point actually - that while grounds around the world vary in size and shape, the 30m circle is always fixed, so fielders in the deep take their marks from that rather than the boundary. I'm not convinced it's the greatest idea if true, but it does actually offer some insight into how tactics and things develop in professional cricket. From what I've heard this summer, Styris is one of our better commentators, and while a lot of us decry the trend for tv companies to employ every international cricketer who's 5 minutes retired - with a lot of justification, to be fair - this kind of insight is the advantage of it. A general fan of cricket who is a broadcasting professional, or a professional cricketer who last played 30 years ago simply wouldn't know that.

 

[Athlai]

not sure if jonsooks impersonation or not

Reckon it's a fair call. We aren't exactly a brilliant T20 lineup. We're clearly pretty decent, but the #1 rank is a bit of a joke. Before yesterdays T20I we hadn't played one since March 2016.

 

[_Ed_]

Yeah that was an interesting point actually - that while grounds around the world vary in size and shape, the 30m circle is always fixed, so fielders in the deep take their marks from that rather than the boundary. I'm not convinced it's the greatest idea if true, but it does actually offer some insight into how tactics and things develop in professional cricket. From what I've heard this summer, Styris is one of our better commentators, and while a lot of us decry the trend for tv companies to employ every international cricketer who's 5 minutes retired - with a lot of justification, to be fair - this kind of insight is the advantage of it. A general fan of cricket who is a broadcasting professional, or a professional cricketer who last played 30 years ago simply wouldn't know that.

Yeah, Styris is pretty good. Nathan McCullum, as much as I like him, isn't.

 

[Meridio]

Yeah, Styris is pretty good. Nathan McCullum, as much as I like him, isn't.

Yep, he's atrocious. Kyle Mills not very good either; has the occasional good point but has an awful voice to listen to. Would like to hear more from Stephen Fleming, though I doubt it's really something he'll be turning to full time.

 

[Bahnz]

Ian Smith's a quick-witted guy. It's his frothing at the mouth after Williamson does anything remotely good that's annoying, at least for me personally anyway.

Yeah, I remember during the Hobart 2011 test, the channel 9 crew played a classic catch from the last time Pakistan toured featuring as if and amir, and Smith piped up with "Boy it'll be a while before anyone's ever caught Amir bowled Asif again." The ensuing awkward silence was the best part.

 

[Flem274*]

Reckon it's a fair call. We aren't exactly a brilliant T20 lineup. We're clearly pretty decent, but the #1 rank is a bit of a joke. Before yesterdays T20I we hadn't played one since March 2016.

there's a difference between this and saying the IPL would clean NZ up. the team from last night is a weak T20I side but the one that got to #1 was quality.

 

[Dick Rockett]

It'd be no great surprise if most international sides struggled against IPL teams, which can potentially field four of the best foreign players in the world as well as any number of Indian stars. It'd be kind of like most international football teams playing Barcelona.

 

[straw man]

Only saw the highlights though was musing on a few things

- While Wheeler is just another low-130s bowler who wants the ball to swing and will probably be tasty fodder on flat wickets, he's shown an ability to hit the block-hole and bowl well at the death so is worth a run, as we are sorely lacking there. I mostly see him as a backup left arm swing bowler for Boult in test cricket though.
- I want to like Anderson and he's had a good domestic T20 season, however I think it's notable how often he mis-hits and slices the ball. Sometimes his muscle still gets the ball to or over the boundary, especially on smaller grounds, however he's caught off a miscue more often than most.
- jonbrooks wanting to leave Williamson out of the T20 side - you are kidding. After Guptill he's one of the first batsmen down on the team sheet. Our side already has a handful of misfiring block-bashers (Munro, Anderson especially) and replacing a reliable batsman who can score at SR 100-130 with yet another one (as that's what we have available) is a terrible idea.
- They're never going to learn that Henry is not a death bowler huh, just like Kyle Mills wasn't.
- Jeez Bangladesh

 

[Zinzan]

not sure if jonsooks impersonation or not

welcome to NZ related threads on CW since day one brisbane. just wait until you read the "someone is TERRIBLE or a GOD" clickbait nature of the rest of the site, or watson and friends championing/making excuses for ****s

i only float around CW out of habit now tbh

I think you'll find that's just revisionist history on your part Flem, Having been on here since 2005, the NZ threads have always been much the same, lots of excitable hyperbole by some, & good healthy degree of cynicism & pessimism from others, a good old dose of Kiwi inferiority complex & lots of knee jerking to top it all off.

I think the only reason you think there's a change now is you're a getting older and changing yourself, as opposed to the threads changing that much. Doubt you would have noticed as much when you were a 17 year old (or whatever age you were back in 2007), & now the new younger next generation of Flems of this world are coming through the NZ CW ranks, you're feeling a little over it. And it's perfectly understandable, we all grow out of things as we age. I remember the days when a young Flem was about the most excitable, enthusiast & spritely young chap in the NZ CW circles, and now you've become a little more cynical, & that's perfectly natural.

If you pull up some old NZ threads from a decade ago, you'll notice it's much the same flavour throughout, only the personnel was quite different.

 

[jonbrooks]

It'd be no great surprise if most international sides struggled against IPL teams, which can potentially field four of the best foreign players in the world as well as any number of Indian stars. It'd be kind of like most international football teams playing Barcelona.

All international teams would be beaten by Real or Barcelona.