***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2016/17

[TheJediBrah]

I'm not actually, I only looked at the teams that visit and used ENG, PAK,WI, IND and NZ batsmen and compared their run rates from the last ten tears to the 90's.

Seriously TNT you have to stop. You're upsetting the forum's anti-Australian status quo. It'll come back to bite us.

 

[adub]

**** I hate that they've pushed the Sydney test back to the 3rd. Get on with it ****s.

 

[KRIS 148]

So basicly what you are saying is it is ok for our so called premier spinner to go to India and other Asian countries and perform with mediocrity on piches that assist him?.

Dragging out Australian records of Indian bowlers is a weak argument. I am talking only of our spinners in Asia.

 

[KRIS 148]

Out of Africa, Hilton aims to follow Kallis | cricket.com.au

Fingers crossed they do actually do this rather than the Agar batting top 7 madness that has been floated.

Birdy a bit stiffed again tbf.

I do not have any problem with Agar batting at #7. In fact I can see him scoring some handy runs from there. Problem I do have is firstly having Wade in the side and secondly having him bat in the vital #6 spot. That is madness. Nevill is a far more technical batsman than Wade and even he was never elevated to #6.

 

[Zinzan]

Seriously TNT you have to stop. You're upsetting the forum's anti-Australian status quo. It'll come back to bite us.

Lol, did you always play the victim on here? Honestly can't recall your posting style in the first couple of years, only really the last year or so.

 

[Tangles]

So Sok and Cartwright in. I hope the pitch actually turns now we have 2 spinners.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Lol, did you always play the victim on here? Honestly can't recall your posting style in the first couple of years, only really the last year or so.

Mate I'm just stating a straight-forward fact. Not commenting on my feelings either way because I don't really have any. Definitely not playing the victim, if anything I find it amusing,

 

[adub]

I do not have any problem with Agar batting at #7. In fact I can see him scoring some handy runs from there. Problem I do have is firstly having Wade in the side and secondly having him bat in the vital #6 spot. That is madness. Nevill is a far more technical batsman than Wade and even he was never elevated to #6.

On Wade, 100%. Barely scoring enough runs at Shield and Test level to bat 8. In horrendous form. Talk of batting him 6 is brain dead.

But no way is Agar a 7. Starc's record is about as good as Agar and he's a long way from being an all rounder batting 7, SOK's FC average is about 3 runs per innings better than Agar and you wouldn't consider him a no.7. Unlike those two Agar has converted his 90s into 100s, but the difference between the 90s SOK and Starc have scored and Ashton's tons isn't really that big a deal. I like that Agar is batting 6 for WA and hope he can continue to improve as if he can become a solid bat then he'd be a real asset in the top 7. But he's a long way from that yet. Same as MMarsh really. Looks like he could be really good, but guys averaging sub 30 FC are not Test bats no matter how much you hope and pray for it.

 

[Zinzan]

Mate I'm just stating a straight-forward fact. Not commenting on my feelings either way because I don't really have any. Definitely not playing the victim, if anything I find it amusing,

It was a little tongue in cheek that observation, although you tend to interpret even the slightly hint of criticism or questioning about anything Australian in quite an extreme & cynical fashion. It's not the first time you've replied with something like that post I quoted tbf

 

[Debris]

You're comparing an all time great period of batsmen for Australia versus a period where they're playing people like Maddinson and are "stuck" with Shaun Marsh/Mitchell Marsh over the last few years. So for a batting line up that doesn't include Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Waugh, Martyn, SWaugh, Gilchrist to be hitting at a higher strike rate than them is an indictment on how flat the pitches are at the moment.

And any further argument can simply be met with "Voges"

No chance that T20 has anything to do with it, then? Or that the reason that those batsmen were so good was that they understood the concept of playing yourself in before swinging at everything? It is a weird argument to say that good batsmen score faster than bad batsmen, especially when one of the good bats you are pointing at is Steve Waugh.

 

[TheJediBrah]

It was a little tongue in cheek that observation, although you tend to interpret even the slightly hint of criticism or questioning about anything Australian in quite an extreme & cynical fashion. It's not the first time you've replied with something like that post I quoted tbf

god could your posting please be a little bit less unbearable

 

[TNT]

So basicly what you are saying is it is ok for our so called premier spinner to go to India and other Asian countries and perform with mediocrity on piches that assist him?.

Dragging out Australian records of Indian bowlers is a weak argument. I am talking only of our spinners in Asia.

No basically what I am saying is the pitches in India are different to those in Australia and spinners in Australia rely more on bounce and flight whereas spinners in India rely on grip and turn. Historically asian spinners dont do well in Australia and Australian bowlers dont do well in Asia. We could hang Lyon from the nearest tree but Australia will still not have a spinner who can master the Indian pitches. If an Australian spin bowler relyed on grip and turn then he probably would never get selected because his figures would be woeful.

 

[Spikey]

as far as i can sok relies on people being stupid enough to try to cut him

 

[adub]

as far as i can sok relies on people being stupid enough to try to cut him

no shortage of dummies about for the boi though

 

[Spark]

O'Keefe is definitely the sort of spinner who might do well on Indian pitches tbf.

 

[Daemon]

O'Keefe is definitely the sort of spinner who might do well on Indian pitches tbf.

Is he able to to change things up on different wickets? From what I recall in the SL test he tossed it up and bowled slowly far more in the first innings compared to the second where he was bowling flatter.

 

[Spikey]

Rain forecast to interrupt all five days of SCG Test


business as usual then

 

[Spikey]

Steven Smith's extraordinary 50 | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

It was against Pakistan at Lord's that Smith made his Test debut in 2010, batting at No.8 behind fellow debutant Tim Paine. In hindsight that seems remarkable - Paine still has only one first-class century even now, compared to Smith's 29.

 

[Spark]

I'm surprised he says he started doing the big trigger movement at the WACA, because I swear he was already doing something similar in England.

 

[social]

Used to get out nicking off driving with a stiff front leg all the time

His game has changed a lot