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***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2016/17

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I'm fairly sure he does, actually, or I might be misremembering.

Either way the fact that he's going around calling Yasir the best spin bowler in the world while Ashwin is doing what he's doing is ridiculous.
Drug cheats gotta stick together.
 

KRIS 148

School Boy/Girl Captain
If Lyon is still our no 1 spinner he goes to India. If he isn't no 1 then who is?

If the Sydney squad is an indication then Lyon and Sok are considered 1 and 2. If Lyon is dropped he has slipped to 2. Still goes to India as 2 though.

A spinning pitch would be nice to help some of the team composition questions.
If Lyon is still No1. But is he? So a batsman loses form..is dropped same as a wicket keeper. But try getting rid of an out of form bowler. Lyon has nothing between the ears as he is still bowling the wrong line and is too fast thru the air after how many years of FC cricket.. He bowls well spasmodically and has been an abject failure in Asian conditions. Why does CA keep picking him then and keep him as our premier spinner.?
 

ImpatientLime

International Regular
If Lyon is still No1. But is he? So a batsman loses form..is dropped same as a wicket keeper. But try getting rid of an out of form bowler. Lyon has nothing between the ears as he is still bowling the wrong line and is too fast thru the air after how many years of FC cricket.. He bowls well spasmodically and has been an abject failure in Asian conditions. Why does CA keep picking him then and keep him as our premier spinner.?
Because the rest of your spinners are ****
 

TNT

Banned
Lets have a look at spinners away from home over the last two years.

PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR510
Yasir Shah (PAK)2015-20161223616.4852020597/7610/14134.233.2762.751
NM Lyon (AUS)2015-20161223406.1761343504/757/12326.863.3048.700
R Ashwin (INDIA)2015-2016917343.0671116487/8310/16023.253.2542.851
MM Ali (ENG)2015-20161322484.2851594375/577/11643.083.2978.510
HMRKB Herath (SL)2015-2016917389.0591114348/6313/15232.762.8668.621
AU Rashid (ENG)2016-2016712287.1231070304/527/17835.663.7257.400
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
Lets have a look at spinners away from home over the last two years.

PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR510
Yasir Shah (PAK)2015-20161223616.4852020597/7610/14134.233.2762.751
NM Lyon (AUS)2015-20161223406.1761343504/757/12326.863.3048.700
R Ashwin (INDIA)2015-2016917343.0671116487/8310/16023.253.2542.851
MM Ali (ENG)2015-20161322484.2851594375/577/11643.083.2978.510
HMRKB Herath (SL)2015-2016917389.0591114348/6313/15232.762.8668.621
AU Rashid (ENG)2016-2016712287.1231070304/527/17835.663.7257.400
Did you just go and kick all those Lyon haters in the nuts with steel capped boots? Way to go!
 

Daemon

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Very impressive numbers. I'm starting to see the light here. 48 wickets @ 23 is nothing to be sniffed at, very good from Ashwin
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
The other thing about Lyon going to India is he has been before. You have to hope the experience will help. Taking 2 spinners who dont know the conditions would be risky.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Lets have a look at spinners away from home over the last two years.

PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR510
Yasir Shah (PAK)2015-20161223616.4852020597/7610/14134.233.2762.751
NM Lyon (AUS)2015-20161223406.1761343504/757/12326.863.3048.700
R Ashwin (INDIA)2015-2016917343.0671116487/8310/16023.253.2542.851
MM Ali (ENG)2015-20161322484.2851594375/577/11643.083.2978.510
HMRKB Herath (SL)2015-2016917389.0591114348/6313/15232.762.8668.621
AU Rashid (ENG)2016-2016712287.1231070304/527/17835.663.7257.400
WTF, that is genuinely amazing.......seriously did not think his stats would be that impressive.

TJB to confirm.
 

TheJediBrah

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Lets have a look at spinners away from home over the last two years.

PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR510
Yasir Shah (PAK)2015-20161223616.4852020597/7610/14134.233.2762.751
NM Lyon (AUS)2015-20161223406.1761343504/757/12326.863.3048.700
R Ashwin (INDIA)2015-2016917343.0671116487/8310/16023.253.2542.851
MM Ali (ENG)2015-20161322484.2851594375/577/11643.083.2978.510
HMRKB Herath (SL)2015-2016917389.0591114348/6313/15232.762.8668.621
AU Rashid (ENG)2016-2016712287.1231070304/527/17835.663.7257.400
I'm more surprised by how good Ashwin's stats are. Assuming most of that would be in other Asian countries/West Indies?
 

TheJediBrah

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I think he's played only one Test in the period outside of Asia/WI, so yeah.
Yeah that makes more sense

I'd wait to see his figures in non-Asia before coming to any conclusions about his bowling

Lyon's stats surprise me too

O'Keefe would have averaged low 20s
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
It's very hard to take 5 wickets when you are taken out of the attack when you take 3 wickets and are on a roll.
 

KRIS 148

School Boy/Girl Captain
Lyon record in Asian conditions is mediocre at best.. 2016 SL tour . 3 tests 16 wicks@ 32 sr @ 58. India 2013. 15 w @37 sr @50. Take off your steel capped boots and toss em.
 
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Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Mate I don't know what you expect out of touring spinners to Asia, but those are really not bad numbers.

Edit:

Hang on........can you clarify the ave and sr. Not sure if I'm reading them arse about. Confusing way you've written that.
 
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