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[Daemon]

One of the most fun batsmen in LO cricket when he plays his little cameos.

 

[indiaholic]

I think fulfilling your potential as an allrounder is extremely difficult. You are good enough at both skills to be considered for an international side. To improve in both areas simultaneously is so difficult and if you decide to prioritise, you may end up regressing in the other skill. Difficult job..

 

[Daemon]

Simon Taufel was supposedly really good. I didn't notice him much which probably meant he did his job well.

 

[indiaholic]

Taufel was brilliant. Dar had a good run too..

 

[OverratedSanity]

Taufel's my vote for GOAT.

Also, most umpires of today have the huge disadvantage of DRS making their errors look far more glaring. Kettleborough generally goes well.

 

[vcs]

Yeah, Taufel was the best for me.

Bucknor also used to be really good in the '90s. It says he officiated in 4 WC finals on Wikipedia.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Nah, Bucknor was always trash. Not because of that one match either. He gave poor decisions against everyone.

 

[vcs]

Hmm.. I always thought he was quite good for some reason. Didn't scrutinize umpiring decisions all that much back then, I guess.

 

[Biryani Pillow]

Nah, Bucknor was always trash. Not because of that one match either. He gave poor decisions against everyone.

Wrong.

He was an excellent umpire for many years, tailed off at the end which is not uncommon as David Shepherd did as well.

Bird had actually been poor for some years before he finished - I was told by someone who would have known that he was eventually told that if he didn't jump he would be pushed,

Taufel and Dar are among the best recent ones - the former was, I am told, rather intense in his preparation and attitude during the course of a game.

 

[Howe_zat]

In recent years I rate Gould, Oxenford and Kettlebrough.

Taufel was great.

 

[Shri]

What I don't get is, how someone like Taufel 'retires' from umpiring. What are you gonna do? Stand in pensioner queues because you got sick and tired of standing in front of cricketers? Jeezus.

 

[Tom Flint]

I don't think anyone knows how good past umpires were as only the really awful decisions were ever questioned. How many 60-40 decisions were they getting wrong that no-one knows about because no ball tracking cameras ect

 

[slippy888]

What I don't get is, how someone like Taufel 'retires' from umpiring. What are you gonna do? Stand in pensioner queues because you got sick and tired of standing in front of cricketers? Jeezus.

He working for the icc now it probable a better paid job rather than a umpire

 

[Howe_zat]

What I don't get is, how someone like Taufel 'retires' from umpiring. What are you gonna do? Stand in pensioner queues because you got sick and tired of standing in front of cricketers? Jeezus.

He's working in umpire training now, according to his wiki page.

 

[indiaholic]

What I don't get is, how someone like Taufel 'retires' from umpiring. What are you gonna do? Stand in pensioner queues because you got sick and tired of standing in front of cricketers? Jeezus.

I think he was paid a crore by the BCCI to train umpires. So he basically took the West indies cricketer's route.

 

[_Ed_]

He working for the icc now it probable a better paid job rather than a umpire

And not having to travel as much as well.

 

[Blocky]

Doug Cowie was amazing for the home team.

 

[cnerd123]

I think fulfilling your potential as an allrounder is extremely difficult. You are good enough at both skills to be considered for an international side. To improve in both areas simultaneously is so difficult and if you decide to prioritise, you may end up regressing in the other skill. Difficult job..

I'd argue that, on the flip side, you get lots of actual match practice because even if you aren't performing in one discipline, you could still be selected for your team on the other one. Specialists usually find themselves out of the XI when they enter a slump, which makes it harder to get back into the XI.

And, similarly, being a batsman who knows the mindset of a bowler and a bowler who knows the mindset of a batsman is a very, very useful thing.

 

[OverratedSanity]

His knocks against us in the 2011 WC final and the 201 world t20 still give me ptsd.

 

[Black_Warrior]

His knocks against us in the 2011 WC final and the 201 world t20 still give me ptsd.

I know cricket is an ancient Indian sport accidentally stumbled upon by the English but how old exactly?
AD or BC?