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***Official*** Australia in South Africa + South Africa in Australia 2016/17

cnerd123

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OverratedSanity said:
Nah it's not black and white. Hawkeye isn't perfect. It was probably a 50-50 decision. Fine with it going either way. Just move on imo.
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It's not subjective tho. The rules are so clear. The umpire made a decision. Hawkeye showed it was correct enough to stick with. If the umpire was wrong, Hawkeye would have shown that.

There is literally no argument to be made. At most, you could say that Smith was unlucky because it was a tight decision that went against him. Unlucky. But you cannot say the umpire was wrong. The umpire being correct is fact. Black and white. No subjectivity.
 
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***** said:
It's fair IMO. This isn't a subjective question with grey areas. It's black and white. Out or not. And it was proven to be Out. So to continue to argue with the fact that it's out is to basically argue against the truth. Which is scummy
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What absolute rubbish *****

***** said:
It's not subjective tho. The rules are so clear. The umpire made a decision. Hawkeye showed it was correct enough to stick with. If the umpire was wrong, Hawkeye would have shown that.

There is literally no argument to be made. At most, you could say that Smith was unlucky because it was a tight decision that went against him. Unlucky. But you cannot say the umpire was wrong. The umpire being correct is fact. Black and white. No subjectivity.
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By your logic then every bad decision that was given before DRS was invented was the right decision because the law says that the umpires decision is final, therefore it must be the right decision
 
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***** said:
It's not subjective tho. The rules are so clear. The umpire made a decision. Hawkeye showed it was correct enough to stick with. If the umpire was wrong, Hawkeye would have shown that.

There is literally no argument to be made. At most, you could say that Smith was unlucky because it was a tight decision that went against him. Unlucky. But you cannot say the umpire was wrong. The umpire being correct is fact. Black and white. No subjectivity.
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What? You're confusing things here. DRS gave it out because the on field call was out. "Umpires call" doesn't mean the umpire made a black-and-white 100% correct decision. Just that he's well within his rights to give it out, because it's close enough. Not out wouldn't have been a terrible decision either.
 
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Judging by Rabada's celebration and how pumped he was after the Khawaja dismissal, i really wouldn't want to be Mitch Starc right now
 
cnerd123

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OverratedSanity said:
What? You're confusing things here. DRS gave it out because the on field call was out. "Umpires call" doesn't mean the umpire made a black-and-white 100% correct decision. Just that he's well within his rights to give it out, because it's close enough. Not out wouldn't have been a terrible decision either.
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It's umpires call because it's uncertain. Technology has its limits.

Uncertain isn't a reason to call the umpire wrong.

It's why I said he was 'correct enough' in his decision for it to be accepted as the correct decision. It was so tight that even technology couldn't confirm nor deny it, so we decided to stick with the original call because ultimately we have to make a decision one way or another, and without conclusive enough evidence to show the umpire as being wrong, why will be decide that he is wrong.

So ultimately, the umpire wasn't wrong.

So to continue to argue that the umpire was wrong is to argue against the facts that are present to us.

Which is scummy.
 
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Gob said:
Judging by Rabada's celebration and how pumped he was after the Khawaja dismissal, i really wouldn't want to be Mitch Starc right now
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Yeah, I don't think he'll get a very friendly reception at the crease. I really don't understand what he was trying to achieve yesterday.
 
Starfighter

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This is Mitch Marsh's chance to show his worth to the team.

Of course, he could just make a total arse of himself.
 
cnerd123

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***** said:
It's umpires call because it's uncertain. Technology has its limits.

Uncertain isn't a reason to call the umpire wrong.

It's why I said he was 'correct enough' in his decision for it to be accepted as the correct decision. It was so tight that even technology couldn't confirm nor deny it, so we decided to stick with the original call because ultimately we have to make a decision one way or another, and without conclusive enough evidence to show the umpire as being wrong, why will be decide that he is wrong.

So ultimately, the umpire wasn't wrong.

So to continue to argue that the umpire was wrong is to argue against the facts that are present to us.

Which is scummy.
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And really anyone attempting to argue that the batsmen shouldn't be given LBW at all if they are 2m down the crease, or that their eyes watching a TV screen are superior to the latest technology on the ground, is being silly. Neither of those are real arguments. It's just having a sook.

Ultimately the umpire did his job, and was proven to have done it well. Accept it and move on.
 
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