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West Indies vs Pakistan in UAE 2016
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weldone
Hall of Fame Member
especially if Nawaz plays ahead of Imad and everyone keeps missing chances created by Amir
Niall
International Coach
They really don't. Wasim has looked good with the bat in the limited overs stuff, but his bowling won't concern anyone especially overseas.
The obvious choice was
Aamer Yamin | Pakistan Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo
But for reasons unknown to many, he is nowhere near international selection.
They have some promising young guys domestically, but nowhere ready for international cricket just yet.
I'd also suggest this is the end for Babar, close to 40, next time they play in Asia, Gohar or Asghar can be the second spinner.
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Agent Nationaux
International Coach
There is also Amad Butt
Amad Butt | Pakistan Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo
Niall
International Coach
Good call.
However is his batting good enough for a test top seven slot?
Its such a shame Sohail got such a horror injury, he would have been perfect for this series and possibly for overseas.
Howe_zat
Audio File
No, but he'd still have a record of sorts as he'd still be the only opener to finish not out twice in a match. Not quite as succint though.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I hope Pakistan select a mad butt.
Howe_zat
Audio File
Call up Abul Razzaq and he'd probably still play. He was playing ODIs aged 53Good call.
However is his batting good enough for a test top seven slot?
Its such a shame Sohail got such a horror injury, he would have been perfect for this series and possibly for overseas.
Stapel
International Regular
The 4 you named, save Bravo, PLUS Blackwoord, Chase & Dowrich all have yet to turn 25 years (I just checked, apparently Dowrich turned 25 during this test...). I won't argue all of them are (or will be) Test Match calibre players, but sure as hell the West Indies have potential!
The West Indies have a combined total of inhabitants of what..... 6 million people? This simply causes many talented players to be spearheaded into the Test team a lot sooner than they would in other Test teams. Such a big difference when you think of, for example, Stuart MacGill or Mike Hussey, who simply didn't get the number of tests they would have, had they been playing for another Test team.
It seems so odd the West Indies haven't any three-quarters-decent batsmen between 28 and 35 that are good enough to simply play in this team and fill an anchor role. I'm not thinking of greats like Chanderpaul, but of players like Samuels has been during his post-suspension period until halfway 2015.
Beamer
International Vice-Captain
We definitely do have potential but you have to remember that the system these players play within is so backward and full of colonial style management that makes it very difficult for them to thrive. Still, the fact that they all play lots of FC cricket back home nowadays will definitely help. For example, Kraigg has 17 FC hundreds under his belt already and that can only help his development at test level.
Samuels must go now, we may as well try Shai Hope or Vishal Singh. They have a better team ethic and cannot do worse. We also need to play the best performing specialist opener and end this silly Middle Order batsman forced to open the innings experiment we've been conducting.
As for the lack of 28 to 35 year olds, it's due to the advent of T20 taking people like Gayle, SImmons, Russell and Pollard being away from test cricket. On top of that, the WICB maliciously ruined Ramnaresh Sarwan to take him out of contention. Samuels, the least useful of them all IMO, is the only one left. On top of that, the likes of Devon Smith scored bucketloads of runs in FC and A team cricket but just couldn't hack it at test level. That didn't help. So the result is we've had to rebuild with batsmen all learning their trade whilst playing test cricket. Still, maybe they will learn together and actually develop some spirit. There have certainly been signs of that here.
AndyZaltzHair
Hall of Fame Member
Disappointing that Anwar Ali could not transform his u-19 promise to international level. Could have been such an asset. I'm skeptical about Yamin's bowling if i'm not confusing him with someone else last time I saw him dibbly dobbly slow medium pacer if he is.
Stapel
International Regular
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. I really hope they pull this off tomorrow. It would be a big thing for these youngsters to beat the #2 Test team in an away Test.