Ben Stokes vs Ravi Ashwin

[AndyZaltzHair]

And why am I the only one voting for TPC

 

[Pratters]

@Pratters:

2003-onwards Vettori maybe comparable as a batsman to Ashwin so far; and yes they were slightly better batsmen than Kapil imo.

You are going over board regarding Ashwin's batting. Let it rest. Maybe after 4-5 years when he actually has made a lot of runs, you can make a case. Not now. You forget his batting has been improving over the years. Two years ago he couldn't bat like this. Let's see where it goes or if he can even sustain this level.

 

[cnerd123]

And why am I the only one voting for TPC

Herath's batting isn't quite there IMO.

 

[TheJediBrah]

And why am I the only one voting for TPC

Because Steve Smith doesn't bowl much anymore

 

[ImpatientLime]

And Harbhajan wouldn't be the same batsman he was if he was playing for another country.

definitely. he wouldn't be playing on roady mcroads so would be lucky to get into double figures.

 

[91Jmay]

Harbhajan is a Broad/Swann type batsmen iirc. Would have been useful lower order basher.

 

[Furball]

I can see an argument for batting based on recent form, but given how he started with the bat and England's options I dont think he gets in overall. And if we use recent form to justify Stokes getting in as a pure bat, then Ashwin gets in too - he had twin 100s vs the West Indies and that fear alone has earned Rohit Sharma a whole Test career.

I agree on 4th seamer, but England's best XI doesn't feature 4 pure bowlers. If not for his batting, Stokes would be a fringe fast bowler trying to break in.

Stokes obviously gets into the side on batting alone ffs.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Herath's batting isn't quite there IMO.

nailed this pull shot though

 

[weldone]

You are going over board regarding Ashwin's batting. Let it rest. Maybe after 4-5 years when he actually has made a lot of runs, you can make a case. Not now. You forget his batting has been improving over the years. Two years ago he couldn't bat like this. Let's see where it goes or if he can even sustain this level.

"I just love his whole mannerism while batting at the crease - the poise, the pose, the ease. I'm a big fan of batsmen that have that flair while batting, which Ashwin certainly has." - Sir Vivian Richards

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Because Steve Smith doesn't bowl much anymore

lol ok

 

[Pratters]

You are going over board regarding Ashwin's batting. Let it rest. Maybe after 4-5 years when he actually has made a lot of runs, you can make a case. Not now. You forget his batting has been improving over the years. Two years ago he couldn't bat like this. Let's see where it goes or if he can even sustain this level.

"I just love his whole mannerism while batting at the crease - the poise, the pose, the ease. I'm a big fan of batsmen that have that flair while batting, which Ashwin certainly has." - Sir Vivian Richards

I loved the style of Trevor Gripper as a batsman. That does not mean how much of a quality he was or wasn't.

 

[honestbharani]

I loved the style of Trevor Gripper as a batsman. That does not mean how much of a quality he was or wasn't.

Pratters thinks he is on par with IVA Richards...

 

[ImpatientLime]

“Cricket has had eras. In the eighties, it was Viv Richards, and then you had Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar who stood out. Adam Voges is one of the most complete players I’ve seen. He’s so versatile; he plays on both feet, and on all sides of the field.’’ - Imran Khan

 

[Pratters]

Pratters thinks he is on par with IVA Richards...

Whoosh.

 

[hendrix]

Would like a Jadeja vs Jimmy Anderson thread plz

 

[Flem274*]

things daniel vettori has done that ashwin hasn't

-played well in games outside of the subcontinent and windies with bat and ball
-drove a bus
-been good enough to be selected to bowl spin in new zealand and not dropped in favour of the indian anton devcich
-taken wickets in australia
-supported by people who think "burgeypoo" is a clever name

next you'll be spouting ashwin is better than kapi....i see

 

[weldone]

I loved the style of Trevor Gripper as a batsman. That does not mean how much of a quality he was or wasn't.

Sure, although there's a slight difference between Pratters liking Trevor Gripper and Viv Richards being a fan of Ashwin's batting.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Would like a Jadeja vs Jimmy Anderson thread plz

Or Kishore Kumar vs Metallica would be fine too

 

[weldone]

“Cricket has had eras. In the eighties, it was Viv Richards, and then you had Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar who stood out. Adam Voges is one of the most complete players I’ve seen. He’s so versatile; he plays on both feet, and on all sides of the field.’’ - Imran Khan

Imran Khan also said Mohammad Sami would be the new Malcolm Marshall.

 

[Pratters]

Sure, although there's a slight difference between Pratters liking Trevor Gripper and Viv Richards being a fan of Ashwin's batting.

Thats not the point. Point is style doesn't always equate to runs and quality. And you are trying to point to the quality of Ashwin as a batsman. Some first class batsmen look really classical and lovely. However they can't make loads of test runs, for instance.