Australian Test Selection 2016/2017

[vic_orthdox]

It greatly increases the likelihood in people who already have a high likelihood. I think there is a lot of PED use in sport, and that it could be a factor. Might not be but can't be dismissed.

You're talking about a sport where the body is least treated like a temple.

 

[vic_orthdox]

He was still hedging his bets when he moved to Adelaide but he was offered a Crows contract and not a SACA one so I think it's official now, yeah. Not sure if he's even playing grade cricket at all this season.

Yeah he was playing in the Adelaide Crows reserves during finals.

 

[Dan]

Good work Dan, very comprehensive. Xavier Doherty is probably a little unlucky to miss out on selection, he is the only experienced player that I can think of who was overlooked, oh maybe Ludeman too, but that might be justified? I like how most of the teams have all rounders at 6 and 8. You seem to be quite high on Wildermuth. Looks a talent, but I didn't expect his name to appear ahead of the bowlers from the 7th XI or Abbott.

Yeah, I'm not especially high on Wildermuth compared to anybody else, but I was forcing myself to stick to the Australian team structure (three quicks, a spinner, an all-rounder at six). That structure means I run out of guys who play that role pretty quickly; not every state runs that way, or they've already been picked as a specialist bat (Stoinis/Maxwell) or a specialist bowler (Faulkner).

On first glance I think Mennie is a bit low on Dan's list. Dominating those four day games for Australia A would've given him some credit, and him stinking up the ODIs should've been no surprise given he stinks up domestic one dayers as well.

Fair point, he could probably bump up a team but if I were picking a team tomorrow I'd prefer Dougeh or Copeland over him, simply because they're both absolute heroes. 4th XI and above, I really don't think Mennie compares as a bowler. Plus keeping that trio together was too good an opportunity to pass up

Good effort. To sound like a pedant I'm pretty sure Alex Keath retired from cricket and is now trying his luck with AFL.

Ah, right, saw him in the Futures League stats from last year and assumed he was still around. Swap him out for the recently-qualified (or close enough) Johan Botha, who captains that team.

 

[NUFAN]

Surprised to see some of the blokes with Test caps so far down the list, like Doolan, Quiney and especially Cosgrove. I suppose they don't play for NSW tbf

There are always a couple of different ways to pick and view these teams.

As an example, if you were told that everyone from the first 3 teams were out injured, pick a team to play a Test match tomorrow against a good country, someone like Doolan who didn't make the 4th best team would come right into calculations over say Dean. However, if you pick your team with a more natural approach of finding the next opener to fit the best Aussie XI joining the likes of Warner and Smith in the Aussie top order, Dean might be a more realistic fit (after injuries to the bats in the 2nd and 3rd teams) ahead of Doolan.

 

[Spikey]

I've got a bone to pick with Dan about that so called 7th XI he picked

 

[the big bambino]

It'd be a very Aus Selector thing to do, tbf. I for one look forward to Swepson's inevitable debut.

Saw Swepson today; looks alright. Might follow Darcy Short around too. Looks a prospect. Thankfully time and therapy has cured me of the neuroses of the Hilditch years. Lyon has little to fear even if the selectors go with the 4 man pace attack just bcos its Perth reason.

 

[brockley]

Paper talk,Henriques for first Test.

 

[SeamUp]

I think SeamUp has a done good with the Aussie A batting lineup as I have picked Handscomb, Bancroft, Patterson and Head as my 4 who are likely to play 50 plus Tests.

I just think they are the classiest bats with the most talent to be able to bat in varying conditions. I did consider Renshaw (need to see if he kicks on from a great first season) and Maddinson and Lynn who I have previously predicted that they'd be successful test cricketers in the past, oh and Stoinis especially if the MMarsh experiment ever ends.

My favourites are the two dogged openers in Bancroft and Renshaw. Just think they have the ability to score big hundreds and can adapt their games.

Personally I feel they need to make a decision on Handscomb re: the gloves and it's clear what they need to do. His batting seems the most important. He is probably fighting it out with Head on who can potentially become king-pins for you at 3/4. Head obviously is quite instinctive still and needs to convert more to show authority which is a bit of a concern. But - you watch him and you think there is something there with that stroke-play and positivity.

Patterson is the one I think may let a few down. He looks diabolical against spin. He is also thrives on width and struggles when bowling straight at him. Not sure if anyone reckons he has shown improvement in this regard? Especially v spin.

 

[Midwinter]

noticed over the weekend that Cummins was being talked up as possibility for the first test on the back of him getting through 2 one day games without breaking down.

Is there really a chance he could be selected ?

 

[the big bambino]

Its a crock.

 

[NUFAN]

I've said it before but if you are:

A) a PONI and
B) from NSW

You get treated a little more favourably. I actually dont have a massive problem with it though since we have Marsh at 6 and the game is at Perth so short firey spells is fine.

 

[Red]

noticed over the weekend that Cummins was being talked up as possibility for the first test on the back of him getting through 2 one day games without breaking down.

Is there really a chance he could be selected ?

Think we just need some firepower.

 

[morgieb]

noticed over the weekend that Cummins was being talked up as possibility for the first test on the back of him getting through 2 one day games without breaking down.

Is there really a chance he could be selected ?

If Starc isn't available, Cummins stocks start to look a lot better as the other options don't have a lot of X-factor/POD from Hazlewood/Bird. I'm not sure if I'd do it but on the right wicket (which hopefully Perth is), it might be worth the risk.

 

[Howe_zat]

a PONI

what's this?

 

[NUFAN]

what's this?

Player of national interest.

 

[Julian87]

If Starc isn't available, Cummins stocks start to look a lot better as the other options don't have a lot of X-factor/POD from Hazlewood/Bird. I'm not sure if I'd do it but on the right wicket (which hopefully Perth is), it might be worth the risk.

If Starc is out of the WACA test you'd think Behrendorff (if he gets through the Matador unscathed) is the obvious replacement.

The only thing with that is it leaves them with a very UnAustralian long tail.

If Lyon was selected in this attack you'd very likely see our entrenched #11 of the past 4 years jump straight to #8 in the batting order.

 

[Julian87]

And NUFAN to answer your query on the 'fallout' of the Sri Lanka tour. Everything to do with public negative comments from the Australian captain towards his spinner and the obvious grooming of Adam Zampa.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the pitch used as an excuse for no specialist spin option at Perth. Then I reckon the spin spot may be a lottery after that.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If Starc is out of the WACA test you'd think Behrendorff (if he gets through the Matador unscathed) is the obvious replacement.

Too early to call this now. He's only just coming back and hasn't looked anything special at all.

 

[morgieb]

If Starc is out of the WACA test you'd think Behrendorff (if he gets through the Matador unscathed) is the obvious replacement.

The only thing with that is it leaves them with a very UnAustralian long tail.

If Lyon was selected in this attack you'd very likely see our entrenched #11 of the past 4 years jump straight to #8 in the batting order.

Yeah I'd probably go with Behrendorff, trouble is he's also just coming back from injury and I'm not sure how much the Australian selectors rate him (though that could be influenced by unfortunate injuries). Plus as you say, his batting is a bit of an issue.

 

[Julian87]

Too early to call this now. He's only just coming back and hasn't looked anything special at all.

Well the other player in the discussion is Pat Cummins.