Australian Test Selection 2016/2017

[91Jmay]

If you are denying that steroid/PED use causes musculoskeletal injures you are literally a flat earther.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If you are denying that steroid/PED use causes musculoskeletal injures you are literally a flat earther.

Not directly.

I feel like you're not learning anything here

And I still don't get what you're point was. Was it a joke? Or are you suggesting that there's a secret network of steroid using fast bowlers out there? Just want to know whether to see you as a conspiracy theorist or simply not funny.

 

[Red]

Hastings over Boland for Pete's sake.

Agree 100%. If Boland plays a test over Hastings the selectors are wrong.

 

[Red]

Sort of feel the time is right to blood a really young batsman this home summer. And while I rate Mitch Marsh highly, I think he should spend this summer batting at 3 or 4 for WA. For mine, you have to average 40+ in the top 6. The selectors should pick one of the younger bats and tell them they have the entire home summer at #6.

So assuming we don't have Starc, Pattinson and Siddle available...

So for the first test in Perth:

S.Marsh (feel for Burns but I think Marsh is a cut above him against good bowling)
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Voges
Bancroft/Patterson/Bancroft/Lehmann
Nevill +
Hastings/Bird
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon

Think Bird is a better bowler than Hastings, but with the amount of injuries and with only 4 bowlers, I think Hastings could do more of the grunt work. Wanna play Cummins because without Starc or Pattinson there is just no heat.

I guess the other alternative (if MMarsh doesn't play) is someone like Stoinus at #6, who is a better (more reliable) bat, and can chip in for a few overs.

 

[the big bambino]

Not sure Stoinus has any more runs in him than Mitch Marsh who is a better bowler anyway. More upside too imo. If you're playing 6 batsmen and Cummins I'd worry we'd end the game with only 3 bowlers.

Warner
Burns
Khawaja
Smith
Voges
Head
Nevill
Starc
Hazlewood
Lyon
Bird

Head, Voges and Warner to bowl fill up overs. Who would have thought with our fast bowling talent the back up is so bare if Starc is ruled out. If that happens I'll go for an old smokie in Bollinger.

 

[Dan]

Yeah there is no chance in hell that we go in without an all-rounder. A genuine fifth bowler is so vital in this team, with the fragility of quicks.

To take SeamUp's challenge and put it on steroids:

First XI	Second XI	Third XI	Fourth XI
D Warner S Marsh U Khawaja S Smith * A Voges M Marsh P Nevill + M Starc J Pattinson J Hazlewood N Lyon	J Burns C Bancroft M Klinger P Handscomb C Lynn M Henriques * M Wade + S O'Keefe P Cummins P Siddle J Bird	E Cowan N Maddinson M Stoinis T Head G Bailey * G Maxwell S Whiteman + J Hastings N Coulter-Nile J Behrendorff F Ahmed	T Dean M Renshaw K Patterson C White * C Ferguson H Cartwright C Hartley + J Faulkner J Holland C Sayers J Paris
Fifth XI	Sixth XI	Seventh XI	Eighth XI
B Dunk R Carters A Doolan S Heazlett J Lehmann D Christian T Paine +* T Copeland S Boland M Swepson D Bollinger	A Finch * R Quiney J Silk B Webster B Rohrer J Wildermuth J Inglis + A Agar J Mennie C Tremain D Worrall	C Hemphrey M Cosgrove D Hughes * A Ross N Reardon A Turner B McDermott + B Cutting A Zampa G Sandhu A Fekete	M Harris S Henry P Forrest T Cooper W Bosisto * A Carey + A Nair S Abbott H Kingston S Mackin P George
Ninth XI	Tenth XI	Eleventh XI	Twelfth XI
J Weatherald M Labuschagne D Michael R Gibson J Doran M Short T Triffitt + N Rimmington J Richardson J Muirhead M Steketee	K Smith N Larkin * J Carder S Raphael J Floros S Harper + M Neser K Richardson W Somerville A Tye D Moody	J Hancock J Pierson S Gotch J Wells J Lenton S Milenko A Ayre + E Gulbis B Dwarshuis C Green B Stanlake	D Solway D King A Day D Dawson + T Beaton A Keath J Bazley C Valente L O'Connor N Cowell L Feldman

 

[91Jmay]

Not directly.

I feel like you're not learning anything here

And I still don't get what you're point was. Was it a joke? Or are you suggesting that there's a secret network of steroid using fast bowlers out there? Just want to know whether to see you as a conspiracy theorist or simply not funny.

It greatly increases the likelihood in people who already have a high likelihood. I think there is a lot of PED use in sport, and that it could be a factor. Might not be but can't be dismissed.

 

[Howe_zat]

Surprised to see some of the blokes with Test caps so far down the list, like Doolan, Quiney and especially Cosgrove. I suppose they don't play for NSW tbf

 

[listento_me]

What fallout are you referring to? I can't see how we'd exclude him.

you might have missed Australia getting embarrassed in Asia for the umpteenth time

 

[Red]

I completely forgot Faulkner. Will he be fit? Give him a run at #6

 

[the big bambino]

you might have missed Australia getting embarrassed in Asia for the umpteenth time

You might not have noticed that people would think it strange to isolate Lyon as the problem and then drop him for a different opponent in different conditions.

 

[Dan]

Surprised to see some of the blokes with Test caps so far down the list, like Doolan, Quiney and especially Cosgrove. I suppose they don't play for NSW tbf

Quiney hasn't been a lock for Victoria, Cosgrove doesn't have a domestic contract here any more (SA dropped him after a poor year or two, only make runs at Leics), and Doolan hasn't really made runs since his Test stint. Given their respective ages, I don't see the selectors returning to them.

 

[Dan]

You might not have noticed that people would think it strange to isolate Lyon as the problem and then drop him for a different opponent in different conditions.

It'd be a very Aus Selector thing to do, tbf. I for one look forward to Swepson's inevitable debut.

 

[NUFAN]

Good work Dan, very comprehensive. Xavier Doherty is probably a little unlucky to miss out on selection, he is the only experienced player that I can think of who was overlooked, oh maybe Ludeman too, but that might be justified? I like how most of the teams have all rounders at 6 and 8. You seem to be quite high on Wildermuth. Looks a talent, but I didn't expect his name to appear ahead of the bowlers from the 7th XI or Abbott.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Maxwell to replace Lyon if Perth is fast n bouncy, And Faulkner as 4th quick instead of M Marsh.

Would just be a better balanced side for mine, longer batting and 4 genuine fast-bowling options.

Or at least it would be if I had any confidence in Maxwell scoring runs

 

[Gnske]

Maxwell to replace Lyon if Perth is fast n bouncy,

That's out of the equation then.

Mark Taylor will be most upset.

 

[Prince EWS]

On first glance I think Mennie is a bit low on Dan's list. Dominating those four day games for Australia A would've given him some credit, and him stinking up the ODIs should've been no surprise given he stinks up domestic one dayers as well.

 

[morgieb]

Yeah there is no chance in hell that we go in without an all-rounder. A genuine fifth bowler is so vital in this team, with the fragility of quicks.

To take SeamUp's challenge and put it on steroids:

First XI	Second XI	Third XI	Fourth XI
D Warner S Marsh U Khawaja S Smith * A Voges M Marsh P Nevill + M Starc J Pattinson J Hazlewood N Lyon	J Burns C Bancroft M Klinger P Handscomb C Lynn M Henriques * M Wade + S O'Keefe P Cummins P Siddle J Bird	E Cowan N Maddinson M Stoinis T Head G Bailey * G Maxwell S Whiteman + J Hastings N Coulter-Nile J Behrendorff F Ahmed	T Dean M Renshaw K Patterson C White * C Ferguson H Cartwright C Hartley + J Faulkner J Holland C Sayers J Paris
Fifth XI	Sixth XI	Seventh XI	Eighth XI
B Dunk R Carters A Doolan S Heazlett J Lehmann D Christian T Paine +* T Copeland S Boland M Swepson D Bollinger	A Finch * R Quiney J Silk B Webster B Rohrer J Wildermuth J Inglis + A Agar J Mennie C Tremain D Worrall	C Hemphrey M Cosgrove D Hughes * A Ross N Reardon A Turner B McDermott + B Cutting A Zampa G Sandhu A Fekete	M Harris S Henry P Forrest T Cooper W Bosisto * A Carey + A Nair S Abbott H Kingston S Mackin P George
Ninth XI	Tenth XI	Eleventh XI	Twelfth XI
J Weatherald M Labuschagne D Michael R Gibson J Doran M Short T Triffitt + N Rimmington J Richardson J Muirhead M Steketee	K Smith N Larkin * J Carder S Raphael J Floros S Harper + M Neser K Richardson W Somerville A Tye D Moody	J Hancock J Pierson S Gotch J Wells J Lenton S Milenko A Ayre + E Gulbis B Dwarshuis C Green B Stanlake	D Solway D King A Day D Dawson + T Beaton A Keath J Bazley C Valente L O'Connor N Cowell L Feldman

Good effort. To sound like a pedant I'm pretty sure Alex Keath retired from cricket and is now trying his luck with AFL.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Mennie, Tremain & Worral all haingin gout together in the 6th XI haha

love it

 

[Prince EWS]

Good effort. To sound like a pedant I'm pretty sure Alex Keath retired from cricket and is now trying his luck with AFL.

He was still hedging his bets when he moved to Adelaide but he was offered a Crows contract and not a SACA one so I think it's official now, yeah. Not sure if he's even playing grade cricket at all this season.