***Official*** New Zealand in India 2016

[indiaholic]

The supreme court in the country has become a bit of a joke in recent times.States and bodies openly ignore their decisions with no consequences. Type in 'Karnataka' or 'Cauvery' in ggogle to be amazed.

Lol remember when the court tried to put a limit on the number of people who can form a pyramid in the matki breaking competitions? The MNS and Shiv Sena openly flouted it.. Even wore t-shirts which said "Yes I am breaking the law."

 

[Shri]

Didnt take much notice of it at the time (and probably has nothing to do with current mess anyway) but any truth in the speculation that the BCCI's finances arent going to be as rosy in the near future due to lack of bidders for tv rights?

It will become whatever is the best bribe one can pay to some official rather than competitive bidding we see at the moment. I guarantee that it will get way more ugly if it goes to the government and no one will benefit from it except for a few bastards in a position of power.

 

[Shri]

It will become whatever is the best bribe one can pay to some official rather than competitive bidding we see at the moment. I guarantee that it will get way more ugly if it goes to the government and no one will benefit from it except for a few bastards in a position of power.

Well, thats kinda what happens anyways but it will be way worse and biases would openly be visible once more in selections. I forgot the details but a friend from college who was an excellent batsman went in for selection to the Tamil Nadu Ranji team and the rumor was that Robin Singh was accepting bribes to shortlist players once.

 

[harsh.ag]

Aren't all sports effectively monopolies? Why is a government monopoly necessarily better? Isn't the evidence on the side of 'ownership structures don't matter much as long as there is competition'?

It's not. Just that the Supreme Court can actually intervene.

I prefer a private monopoly over a government one too, but then you have to be okay with "corruption" in it. I am okay with it. I prefer a private monopoly with corruption by their own rules to a government one, which will suck in infinitely more ways.

But then what most people want is the best of both worlds, which is not gonna happen. Make up your mind, ****s.

 

[vcs]

Lol remember when the court tried to put a limit on the number of people who can form a pyramid in the matki breaking competitions? The MNS and Shiv Sena openly flouted it.. Even wore t-shirts which said "Yes I am breaking the law."

Never let it be said that our courts don't tackle the important issues.

 

[indiaholic]

Well, thats kinda what happens anyways but it will be way worse and biases would openly be visible once more in selections. I forgot the details but a friend from college who was an excellent batsman went in for selection to the Tamil Nadu Ranji team and the rumor was that Robin Singh was accepting bribes to shortlist players once.

A close friend of mine was a pretty good fast bowler in the Under 14 age group. He was told that if he wanted to be selected as a part of any state sides then he will have to change schools to one which was run by the Gujarat Cricket Association president and that the only way he was going to get into the school was if he "donated" 1.5 lakhs (in 2003 money) to the school's trust.

 

[Shri]

Lodha Committee clarifies BCCI's NZ series-cancellation claim | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[indiaholic]

Lodha Committee clarifies BCCI's NZ series-cancellation claim | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

Probably the best researched article I have read on this. Maybe this is why cricinfo did not publish immediately, HB.

 

[indiaholic]

Also goes on to show how BCCI is playing a pointless game of brinkmanship.

 

[cnerd123]

Probably the best researched article I have read on this. Maybe this is why cricinfo did not publish immediately, HB.

If research regarding the Lodha Committee Reforms interest you...

 

[OverratedSanity]

Was pretty obvious hb was letting his bias get in the way.

 

[Furball]

Aren't all sports effectively monopolies? Why is a government monopoly necessarily better? Isn't the evidence on the side of 'ownership structures don't matter much as long as there is competition'?

In Europe at least the league bodies and the national associations tend to be two separate bodies (Premier League, Football League and Football Association in England, DFL and DFB in Germany, SPFL and SFA in Scotland etc).

 

[sunilreddy]

Not as a exciting as facing swing bowling without diapers I'd wager

Like Australian's facing spin with Menstrual Pad's on...

 

[Flem274*]

weighing in on the nz home series pickings, i think we'd be daft to select two spinners on early season decks which means someone gets a hard call. i'm leaning towards

latham
raval
williamson
taylor
nicholls
watling (wk)
anderson/neesham (fitness decides)
santner
henry
wagner
boult

wellingtonians won't like me but i'm taking santa's extra batting and nicholls scores in SA over ronchi's scores in india as what i most want on nz pitches

 

[The Hutt Rec]

weighing in on the nz home series pickings, i think we'd be daft to select two spinners on early season decks which means someone gets a hard call. i'm leaning towards

latham
raval
williamson
taylor
nicholls
watling (wk)
anderson/neesham (fitness decides)
santner
henry
wagner
boult

wellingtonians won't like me but i'm taking santa's extra batting and nicholls scores in SA over ronchi's scores in india as what i most want on nz pitches

I'm happy with that as a Wellingtonian. Ronchi is also ancient and probably doesn't have much improvement, plus has had a golden run in the odi and t20 sides without many runs.

As for this series, let's just go home!

 

[Prince EWS]

weighing in on the nz home series pickings, i think we'd be daft to select two spinners on early season decks which means someone gets a hard call. i'm leaning towards

latham
raval
williamson
taylor
nicholls
watling (wk)
anderson/neesham (fitness decides)
santner
henry
wagner
boult

wellingtonians won't like me but i'm taking santa's extra batting and nicholls scores in SA over ronchi's scores in india as what i most want on nz pitches

I'm a bit torn over Ronchi.

One on hand I think it's illogical to engage in a horses for course selection, then act all surprised when it comes off and keep them around for different conditions. The point of picking Ronchi in India was that he'd be better there than elsewhere, and they were right. It doesn't mean they need to revisit their ideas of how he'd go in home conditions against bounce and lateral movement from the quicks.

On the other hand, I really don't rate Nicholls at all. I've resisted calls to axe him because he hasn't been terrible and deserves a run so he doesn't end up hanging around in wishy-washy unproven reserve batsman land, but I have no faith in him moving forward.

Ideally it'd be someone else altogether, but I don't think there are any other options worth getting excited about, so I don't really mind either way. I strongly suspect Ronchi will be retained though.

 

[Gnske]

More like Nicholls' score.

I know Bayliss says he'd rather give a player a test too many, but Nicholls has had 7 too many. Each one more undeserving than the last. People say, "well that 76" well I say shut up and listen you plebs. It was the most unconvincing stroke play I've ever seen, the man has no game whatsoever and I say anyone who fails in a series where even Ross can score runs has no business being given the honour of wearing national colours. Not to mention the rest of his body of work, I puke at the thought that NZ selectors really thought, no matter what context that this literal hack has any business wearing coloured let alone white clothing for his national side. He bats like a deceased possum which has been preserved and frozen by taxidermy which has then had a wooden rod inserted into its sphincter to be waved about as if it were alive.

The only business Nicholls should have with cricket is from the stands as a bystander to actual talent.

 

[Flem274*]

yeah hesson adores ronchi so i think he's a good chance of playing in reality, along with southee returning for henry and i really have no idea what might happen next with the opener spot

He bats like a deceased possum which has been preserved and frozen by taxidermy which has then had a wooden rod inserted into its sphincter to be waved about as if it were alive.

you would love the plunket shield. cross enemy lines and become an NZ fan and glory in the shield middle orders.

 

[Flem274*]

I'll say this in Hesson's defence over the Guptill saga. He's been very clear that he wants to stop the revolving door of the 90s and 00s where someone like Latham would have been on death row before yesterdays score. He gave Rutherford and Fulton every chance, Sodhi, Craig and Bracewell keep slinking back in and he persisted with the broken Boult and Southee for 18 months. Very few of those bets came off, but persistence also gave us the Wagner we have today and Boult is back in form. He was also man enough to recall Jeetan Patel and give the captaincy to Taylor when needed.

It's a no-win situation when your options in some areas are so poor but I think it's better to pick who you think has potential rather than throw every Tom, Dick and Rob Nicol at the problem and hope.

 

[harsh.ag]

The Guptill thing doesn't belong to any of those philosophies though. It's just massive status quo bias at this point.