*Official* English Football Season 2016-17

[Burgey]

Mourinho out!

 

[Scaly piscine]

Yep and was absolute **** last season too. Probably crap before then too but didn't get to see him then.

Like I've been saying he shouldn't have made the squad for Euro 2016. There must be something in his contract because almost everyone now has twigged that he's complete shite.

 

[Tangles]

I thought he was decent for us the season before the WC but since then he's fallen off a cliff. A cliff made of burgers, chips, beers and smokes probably.

 

[Uppercut]

Yep and was absolute **** last season too. Probably crap before then too but didn't get to see him then.

Like I've been saying he shouldn't have made the squad for Euro 2016. There must be something in his contract because almost everyone now has twigged that he's complete shite.

It's hit the headlines hard after Sunday though. Feels like there's enough momentum that Mou might finally get rid.

 

[Furball]

I can't believe Mourinho played him in midfield after mocking the idea in a press conference when he took the job.

 

[sledger]

I can't believe Mourinho played him in midfield after mocking the idea in a press conference when he took the job.

Haha this occurred to me as well.

 

[Furball]

It wasn't even a 'Rooney's better up front' type comment, it was essentially 'Rooney is a **** midfielder'.

 

[sledger]

Yeah, I remember him scoffing at the very notion of it, and tbf to him he was absolutely right to as far as I'm concerned.

Perhaps, as others have alluded to, he is under some pressure to play him, and he's just come to the conclusion that, in spite of Rooney being awful, he's actually less of a liability/detriment to the team in midfield than he is up front. (e.g. As long as we can actually get the ball to Zlatan we can be relatively sure he'll score, whereas Rooney...)

It's about the only explanation I can think of.

 

[Furball]

Yeah, I remember him scoffing at the very notion of it, and tbf to him he was absolutely right to as far as I'm concerned.

Perhaps, as others have alluded to, he is under some pressure to play him, and he's just come to the conclusion that, in spite of Rooney being awful, he's actually less of a liability/detriment to the team in midfield than he is up front. (e.g. As long as we can actually get the ball to Zlatan we can be relatively sure he'll score, whereas Rooney...)

It's about the only explanation I can think of.

Nah, Mourinho dropped Casillas at Real Madrid, absolutely no chance he's bowing to pressure to play Rooney.

 

[sledger]

Nah, Mourinho dropped Casillas at Real Madrid, absolutely no chance he's bowing to pressure to play Rooney.

Haha, sounds like a non sequitur argument to me.

 

[Uppercut]

Nah, Mourinho dropped Casillas at Real Madrid, absolutely no chance he's bowing to pressure to play Rooney.

I don't agree with this. His ability to judge a player's ability has always been miles better than his handling of internal politics. I think it's more likely that he's trying not to repeat his political mistakes at RM than that he can't actually see that Rooney is shite.

I was going to call this a political error but I'm actually not sure. I would have loved to see it if he'd got the Schweinsteiger treatment or shipped off like Joe Hart. But the English media would put him in a really difficult position if we lost two games in a row with Rooney in exile. Maybe he really does need everyone to see how shite he is for themselves before he can drop him.

 

[Ikki]

Yep and was absolute **** last season too. Probably crap before then too but didn't get to see him then.

Like I've been saying he shouldn't have made the squad for Euro 2016. There must be something in his contract because almost everyone now has twigged that he's complete shite.

You need to light a J and chillax bruh. It isn't normal to be this negative.

I don't agree with this. His ability to judge a player's ability has always been miles better than his handling of internal politics. I think it's more likely that he's trying not to repeat his political mistakes at RM than that he can't actually see that Rooney is shite.

I was going to call this a political error but I'm actually not sure. I would have loved to see it if he'd got the Schweinsteiger treatment or shipped off like Joe Hart. But the English media would put him in a really difficult position if we lost two games in a row with Rooney in exile. Maybe he really does need everyone to see how shite he is for themselves before he can drop him.

I think that's the case. If he ousted Rooney from the get-go there'd still be some part of the United support, the English press and even his own players that may have had a bad feeling about it. This way, it's them telling him to drop him. That's the only power struggle left for Mourinho in terms of actually setting up the team.

It makes sense with his previous comments about not playing Rooney as a midfielder. It's setup so that Rooney either starts scoring/creating goals, or he's ****ed. It comes across initially as belief in Rooney in his natural position when it's clear he can't play there to the level he used to.

Or...we're just talking a lot of shite and theorising because we're bored.

 

[anil1405]

There is too much emphasis on the happenings surrounding Rooney which might make some believe that dropping Rooney would solve Utd's woes. But the problem runs deep and Mou has to sort out the formation and having right personnel in the right positions.

 

[sledger]

There's obviously a wider debate to be had here about the quality of Utd's performances and so on, but I don't think anyone's missing that point per se. No matter how you slice it Rooney is just flat out terrible.

 

[Uppercut]

There's obviously a wider debate to be had here about the quality of Utd's performances and so on, but I don't think anyone's missing that point per se. No matter how you slice it Rooney is just flat out terrible.

Yeah I think we're unlikely to improve a huge amount immediately after dropping him, especially if Mkh is still out injured. It'll take us a while to figure out what our best system is, but it definitely doesn't involve planting an overgrown potato in the middle of our attack.

 

[Spikey]

lol yaya cant come out and play until he says sorry

 

[Furball]

I don't agree with this. His ability to judge a player's ability has always been miles better than his handling of internal politics. I think it's more likely that he's trying not to repeat his political mistakes at RM than that he can't actually see that Rooney is shite.

I was going to call this a political error but I'm actually not sure. I would have loved to see it if he'd got the Schweinsteiger treatment or shipped off like Joe Hart. But the English media would put him in a really difficult position if we lost two games in a row with Rooney in exile. Maybe he really does need everyone to see how shite he is for themselves before he can drop him.

His 'political' mistakes at Real Madrid were playing shite football and acting like a petulant arsehole. Ancelotti also didn't play Casillas but didn't run into problems with the club's hierarchy because he wasn't embarassing them with his antics.

 

[Uppercut]

His 'political' mistakes at Real Madrid were playing shite football and acting like a petulant arsehole. Ancelotti also didn't play Casillas but didn't run into problems with the club's hierarchy because he wasn't embarassing them with his antics.

Ancelotti is a political master and footballing mediocrity. He still picked Casillas in Europe, purely for political reasons, and was incredibly lucky that it didn't cost him a CL final to Atletico.

I don't really disagree with your point though. It doesn't contradict me.

 

[Tangles]

Yeah, I remember him scoffing at the very notion of it, and tbf to him he was absolutely right to as far as I'm concerned.

Perhaps, as others have alluded to, he is under some pressure to play him, and he's just come to the conclusion that, in spite of Rooney being awful, he's actually less of a liability/detriment to the team in midfield than he is up front. (e.g. As long as we can actually get the ball to Zlatan we can be relatively sure he'll score, whereas Rooney...)

It's about the only explanation I can think of.

As a 10 Rooney will just not provide goals. As a midfielder he won't track and will cost goals. He's a bigger liability in midfield IMO. Especially in that 3 man midfield with no defensive shield.

 

[sledger]

As a 10 Rooney will just not provide goals. As a midfielder he won't track and will cost goals. He's a bigger liability in midfield IMO. Especially in that 3 man midfield with no defensive shield.

Depends if you rate your goal scoring potential higher than your goal conceding potential surely. Doesn't really matter how many you concede as long as Zlatan bangs in more etc...

Not a philosophy that I particularly care for, but I suspect some might. Not very Mourinho-esque either, that I will concede.