The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[the big bambino]

Les Ames.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah he would bat 6. Probably going to get him or Walcott because I expect famous modern players like Dhoni to be picked first

 

[harsh.ag]

Yeah he would bat 6. Probably going to get him or Walcott because I expect famous modern players like Dhoni to be picked first

Should go for Knott if available imo. Would become a truly great team. Doesn't look like he will be that popular on there either.

 

[the big bambino]

Yeah Knotty. Actually there all worthy. Walcott is a good one and I always forget his wicket keeping.

 

[Red]

Australian favourites.

Archie Jackson
Victor Trumper
Stan McCabe
Mark Waugh
Keith Miller
Neil Harvey
Adam Gilchrist
Hugh Trumble
Ray Lindwall
Dennis Lillee
Bert Ironmonger

 

[the big bambino]

Like the combo of Dainty and Trumble.

 

[Red]

1876 -1890

WG Grace (Eng) *
Arthur Shrewsbury (Eng)
Billy Murdoch (Aus)
George Ulyett (Eng)
Allan Steel (Eng)
George Giffen (Aus)
Jack Blackham (Aus) +
Bobbly Peel (Eng)
CTB Turner (Aus)
Fred Spofforth (Aus)
George Lohmann (Eng)


1890 - 1899

Tom Hayward (Eng)
Joe Darling (Aus)
Clem Hill (Aus)
KS Ranjitsinhji (Eng)
FS Jackson (Eng) *
George Giffen (Aus)
Bobby Peel (Eng)
Dick Lilley (Eng) +
CTB Turner (Aus)
Tom Richardson (Eng)
George Lohmann (Eng)


1900 - 1910

Victor Trumper (Aus)
Warren Bardsley (Aus)
Clem Hill (Aus)
FS Jackson (Eng)
Monty Noble (Aus)
Wilfred Rhodes (Eng)
Hugh Trumble (Aus)
Dick Lilley (Eng) +
Colin Blythe (Eng)
SF Barnes (Eng)
Tibby Cotter (Aus)


1910 - 1920

Jack Hobbs (Eng)
Warren Bardsley (Aus)
Clem Hill (Aus)
Victor Trumper (Aus)
Frank Woolley (Eng)
Warwick Armstrong (Aus) *
Aubrey Faulkner (SA)
Ranji Horden (Aus)
Bill Whitty (Aus)
SF Barnes (Eng)
Bert Strudwick (Eng) +


1920 - 1930

Jack Hobbs (Eng)
Herb Sutcliffe (Eng)
Charlie Macartney (Aus)
Wally Hammond (Eng) *
Frank Woolley (Eng)
Herbie Taylor (SA)
Jack Gregory (Aus)
Bert Oldfield (Aus) +
Maurice Tate (Eng)
Arthur Mailey (Aus)
Tich Freeman (Eng)


1930 - 1940

Bruce Mitchell (SA)
Herb Sutcliffe (Eng)
Don Bradman (Aus) *
George Headley (WI)
Wally Hammond (Eng)
Stan McCabe (Aus)
Les Ames (Eng) +
Learie Constantine (WI)
Clarrie Grimmett (Aus)
Bill O'Reilly (Aus)
Bill Voce (Eng)


1940 - 1950

Arthur Morris (Aus)
Len Hutton (Eng)
Don Bradman (Aus) +
Everton Weekes (WI)
Dennis Compton (Eng)
Dudley Nourse (SA)
Keith Miller (Aus)
Godfrey Evans (Eng) +
Ray Lindwall (Aus)
Alec Bedser (Eng)
Bill Johnston (Aus)


1950 - 1960

Len Hutton (Eng) *
Hanif Mohammed (Pak)
Clyde Walcott (WI)
Peter May (Eng)
Neil Harvey (Aus)
Garry Sobers (WI)
Richie Benaud (Aus)
Godfrey Evans (Eng) +
Jim Laker (Eng)
Alec Bedser (Eng)
Fred Trueman (Eng)


1960 - 1970

Bill Lawary (Aus)
Bob Simpson (Aus)
Rohan Kanhai (WI)
Ken Barrington (Eng)
Graeme Pollock (SA)
Garry Sobers (WI) *
Allan Davidson (Aus)
Wally Grout (Aus) +
Graham McKenzie (Aus)
Wes Hall (WI)
Lance Gibbs (WI)


1970 - 1980

Geoff Boycott (Eng)
Sunil Gavaskar (Ind)
Viv Richards (WI)
Greg Chappell (Aus)
Clive Lloyd (WI) *
Tony Greig (Eng)
Ian Botham (Eng)
Allan Knott (Eng) +
Andy Roberts (WI)
Derek Underwood (Eng)
Dennis Lillee (Aus)


1980 - 1990

Gordon Greenidge (WI)
Desmond Haynes (WI)
Viv Richards (WI)
Martin Crowe (NZ)
Javed Miandad (Pak)
Allan Border (Aus) *
Jeff Dujon (WI) +
Imran Khan (Pak)
Richard Hadlee (NZ)
Malcolm Marshall (WI)
Abdul Qadir (Pak)


1990 - 2000

Graham Gooch (Eng)
David Boon (Aus)
Rahul Dravid (Ind)
Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)
Brian Lara (WI)
Steve Waugh (Aus) *
Ian Healy (Aus) +
Wasim Akram (Pak)
Shane Warne (Aus)
Curtly Ambrose (WI)
Waqar Younis (Pak)


2000 - 2010

Matt Hayden (Aus)
Virender Sehwag (Ind)
Ricky Ponting (Aus)
Jaques Kallis (SA)
Brian Lara (WI)
Kumar Sangakkara *
Adam Gilchrist (Aus) +
Shaun Pollock (SA)
Dale Steyn (SA)
Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)
Glenn McGrath (Aus)

 

[listento_me]

Test XI:

1. Matthew Hayden AUS
2. Jack Hobbs ENG
3. Don Bradman AUS
4. Sachin Tendulkar IND
5. Viv Richards WI
6. Gary Sobers WI
7. Imran Khan (c) PAK
8. Adam Gilchrist (wk) AUS
9. Wasim Akram PAK
10. Shane Warne AUS
11. Glenn McGrath AUS
12th man - Malcolm Marshall

That's my all time XI.

Might do one for each major test playing nation at some stage.

 

[Howe_zat]

I've been doing a draft on reddit with 8 players which is an all-time draft designed to finish with a simming tournament on DBC14.

Despite not getting one of the first few picks I've done pretty well because outside of the streamlining of this process on CW people have some ideas that are a little odd to our ears

My team so far

Len Hutton (picked round 3)
Sunil Gavaskar (r5)
Wally Hammond (r7)
-
-
Keith Miller (r4)
Imran Khan (round1, pick 6)
-
Dennis Lillee (r6)
Muttiah Muralitharan (r2)
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Quick update

1. Sunil Gavaskar (R5)
2. Len Hutton (R3)
3. Wally Hammond (R7)
4.
5. Allan Border (R8)
6. Keith Miller (R4)
7.
8. Imran Khan (R1)
9. Dennis Lillee (R6)
10. Muttiah Muralitharan (R2)
11. Bill O'Reilly (R9)

I reckon there are two other sides in the comp that will take some beating and have been selected according to CW approved methods. Annoyingly one of them had Round 1 Pick 1.

The Streakers CC

1. Herbert Sutcliffe (R6)
2.
3. Don Bradman (R1)
4. George Headley (R7)
5. Graeme Pollock (R8)
6. Aubrey Faulkner (R4)
7. Ian Botham (R5)
8.
9. George Lohmann (R3)
10.Malcolm Marshall (R2)
11.

Concordians CC

1.
2. Wilfred Rhodes (R4)
3. Ricky Ponting (R3)
4. Ken Barrington
5. Steve Waugh (R6)
6. Andy Flower (R5)
7.
8. Fred Trueman (R7)
9. Shane Warne (R2)
10. Alan Donald (R9)
11. Sydney Barnes (R1)

 

[honestbharani]

That Bradman side wins right? See if you can sneak in Sanggakkara or Engineer or someone who is good at keeping to spin. You can get Dhoni and claim you will be awesome as he will get a lot of dismissals for Murali and O'Reilly...

 

[Howe_zat]

You can get Dhoni and claim you will be awesome as he will get a lot of dismissals for Murali and O'Reilly...

I'm doing this on Reddit, not the day nursery, give them some credit

~

FTR this is for a simming tournament.

 

[honestbharani]

lol.. but I am not sure which other great keeper u can get so deep into the rounds...

 

[Howe_zat]

Sangakkara, Flower, Gilchrist, De Villiers and now Walcott have been picked. There are 8 teams so I'm intending to get whichever of Ames and Knott doesn't get picked. The last batting spot is probably just going to be Joe Root so as I can get the rootometer out in match threads.

 

[honestbharani]

I was gonna suggest Walcott as the reddit tends to be more biased towards the recent side of history from my experience there.. Well, Ames sounds good but you can consider Healy perhaps, given the strength of your batting?

 

[Howe_zat]

I've already got too many Australian dickheads tbh

 

[Howe_zat]

On topic who do you think would win between

Seam XI

Sunil Gavaskar
Jack Hobbs
Ricky Ponting
Wally Hammond
Jacques Kallis
Steve Waugh
Clyde Walcott+
Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath

Spin XI

Len Hutton
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Allan Border
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist+
Hedley Verity/Jim Laker
Shane Warne
Muttiah Muralitharan
Bill O'Reilly

Assumptions:

Bradman doesn't count, yes I know he bowled leggies
Conditions are equally conductive to seam and spin

 

[Howe_zat]

Feel like the Seam XI would do better at using both the new and old ball and bowling in partnerships as none of the spinners would have been in an attack like that.

 

[Prince EWS]

Is Sobers allowed to bowl seam up for the Spin XI? I think the answer to that question would ultimately decide who I'd expect to win.

 

[honestbharani]

Also maybe throw in Lohmann there for the spin side, and/or Sid Barnes?

 

[Howe_zat]

Is Sobers allowed to bowl seam up for the Spin XI?

That would rather defeat the purpose of the exercise