*Official* Australia in Sri Lanka 2016

[TheJediBrah]

So sl spin bowling sucks without herath, then I predict an easy series victory for us

lol no

they still have ok spinners and we have a team full of batsmen who have hardly played on these type of pitches in their lives

I predict 3-2 one way or the other

 

[DriveClub]

lol no

they still have ok spinners and we have a team full of batsmen who have hardly played on these type of pitches in their lives

I predict 3-2 one way or the other

I predict 3-2 the aussie way, you can come back and congratulate me after the series, thanks.

 

[Compton]

So sl spin bowling sucks without herath, then I predict an easy series victory for us

I predict 3-2 the aussie way, you can come back and congratulate me after the series, thanks.

Can't remember the last time I've read someone's confidence drop so much between two posts

 

[honestbharani]

Think many of you are underrating Bailey tbh... Its not just about him being good at ODIs. I think he is good at milking spinners for 1s and 2s and that is something almost every Aussie test batsman seems to be lacking, perhaps with the exception of Smith.

 

[Burgey]

Good to see my man George Bailey being mentioned favourably in dispatches.

 

[Top_Cat]

Chappelli's sage advice for Aussie bats going to India: give up now.

Ian Chappell: Batsmen should begin spin training at an early age | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Gob]

Think many of you are underrating Bailey tbh... Its not just about him being good at ODIs. I think he is good at milking spinners for 1s and 2s and that is something almost every Aussie test batsman seems to be lacking, perhaps with the exception of Smith.

The way he is exposing his middle and off to the spinners. Rangana Herath will literally gobble him

 

[honestbharani]

Not if you are good enough to get bat on it before it sneaks through. I am not saying he is Bradman, guys. Just saying he might have been a better bet than your Khawajas and Henriques.

 

[Xuhaib]

Not if you are good enough to get bat on it before it sneaks through. I am not saying he is Bradman, guys. Just saying he might have been a better bet than your Khawajas and Henriques.

I don;t agree with horses for courses tactics but Aus spin play is so bad I believe they should go for it next indian tour. Play Smith, Warner and then try to pick 4 best batsmen of spin in the country. They have lost 9/9 in Asia can't do worse.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don;t agree with horses for courses tactics but Aus spin play is so bad I believe they should go for it next indian tour. Play Smith, Warner and then try to pick 4 best batsmen of spin in the country. They have lost 9/9 in Asia can't do worse.

I firmly agree with this. I definitely don't think this would lead to Bailey being selected but I agree with the principle anyway.

 

[Top_Cat]

Still reckon the 'exposure to good spin' thing is a bit of a furphy too. The best players of spin Aus saw during their strong era, bar the Waughs, grew up on flat, pacy decks. One thing they all shared was being dropped and toiling away in relative obscurity before getting picked again. Whatever your background and limitations, you're going to be pretty ****ing interested in making sure that, having finally gotten spot, no **** was going to take it from you. The current lot, albeit the best available, have a lot less selection pressure.

 

[TheJediBrah]

"pick the best players of spin" is great-sounding but utterly meaningless in practice. Other than extreme circumstances such as if you have someone utterly useless like Khawaja or someone supremely good against spin but who isn't great against seam-up bowling your batting line-up shouldn't really change. That's because you simply can't empirically determine who is a "good player of spin" until they actually endure the same conditions and circumstances as the supposed failures.


On another note do Asian countries ever select fast-bouncy-bowling batting-specialists for tours to Australia? Wouldn't that be the same principle?

 

[hendrix]

yeah and good players of Aussie spin is not necessarily good players of SC spin

 

[vic_orthdox]

Bailey's an awful starter against spin, and struggles to pick anything early.

He has great hands in general though, once he gets settled he's as good (if not better) as any of our non-guaranteed batsmen against spin.

 

[honestbharani]

"pick the best players of spin" is great-sounding but utterly meaningless in practice. Other than extreme circumstances such as if you have someone utterly useless like Khawaja or someone supremely good against spin but who isn't great against seam-up bowling your batting line-up shouldn't really change. That's because you simply can't empirically determine who is a "good player of spin" until they actually endure the same conditions and circumstances as the supposed failures.


On another note do Asian countries ever select fast-bouncy-bowling batting-specialists for tours to Australia? Wouldn't that be the same principle?

I am pretty sure this is why Dravid got selected. We had a number of FTBs tearing it up in Ranji but they went for the guy who will be the best bet for English conditions.

 

[honestbharani]

Bailey's an awful starter against spin, and struggles to pick anything early.

He has great hands in general though, once he gets settled he's as good (if not better) as any of our non-guaranteed batsmen against spin.

Well, most batsmen struggle to start well against spin in SC conditions. But surely the guy who is more likely to convert a streaky start to a 60+ is more desirable than the one who will get out at 30 or 40. Anyways, it is just my opinion that he would have been better. I am sure the Aussie contingent here will know better and that is why wanted to throw this up for discussion.

 

[Daemon]

Well, most batsmen struggle to start well against spin in SC conditions. But surely the guy who is more likely to convert a streaky start to a 60+ is more desirable than the one who will get out at 30 or 40. Anyways, it is just my opinion that he would have been better. I am sure the Aussie contingent here will know better and that is why wanted to throw this up for discussion.

Aussie contingent here know nothing. They said Rogers would be a failure and think Lyon is a good bowler.

 

[Jono]

 

[morgieb]

Aussie contingent here know nothing. They said Rogers would be a failure and think Lyon is a good bowler.

Wasn't that only Benchmark?

 

[Daemon]

An opinion can never be held 'only' by benchmark, because about a thousand others had their noses brown in his p00pch00te