*Official* Australia in Sri Lanka 2016

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah I agree with hendrix, I think you guys are reading too much into a statement that was made on the spot and without much thought behind it.

It's not nice to say something like 'bowls a little bit' to a guy who you picked as your backup all rounder tbf, but as we all know Smith is a bit of a ****. He's got nothing on Dhoni though, who regularly shits on his bowlers.

I think there's a bit of a cultural misunderstanding going on here. When someone says "bowls a little bit" in conversation, it doesn't always mean they literally only bowl a little bit. It sounded to me completely innocuous and is basically intended to mean "he's an allrounder"

 

[Burgey]

I agree.

 

[Gnske]

Also he's New South Welsh, he has no inherent decorum so it's not his fault really.

People going way too hard at him for something he can't control.

 

[Dan]

O Keefe and Zamba should be tried in India next year.

Come back to me when Zampa can take his FC wickets at under 50.

I don't think it was the first statement that was the problem so much. It was the statement after - 'Marsh is the allrounder in the team'. That bothered me a little bit. That's like England saying, Stokes is the allrounder in the team when Moeen and Woakes are in the side. It's insulting to the others.

Meh, Stokes is the allrounder in the team. Moeen is the spinner in the team, Woakes is the third seamer. Those are their roles in the team. It just so happens that Moeen and Woakes can also bat to a high standard.

"Ben Stokes is our all-rounder, Moeen is our spinner and Woakes is partnering Jimmy and Broad in the seam attack. Obviously, those guys also contribute with the bat too, but they're in the team primarily to bowl."

"Moz was picked as a batsman, and can contribute with the ball if required. Mitch Marsh is our first-choice all-rounder."

 

[Black_Warrior]

Yeah and that's still a problematic statement

 

[TheJediBrah]

Come on, Steve Smith is enough of a prick as it is, you don't have invent prick-ish things for him to have done/said to prove it

 

[Dan]

Yeah and that's still a problematic statement

...how?

"Player X is in Y role. He's also capable of filling Role Z, but Player A is our first choice there for reasons B, C and D."

 

[honestbharani]

...how?

"Player X is in Y role. He's also capable of filling Role Z, but Player A is our first choice there for reasons B, C and D."

See, it makes sense in the context of how he was picked for the XI. But this is no Moeen or Woakes situation where they were selected in the squad itself as primarily bowlers. Here, it is obvious that Henriques was selected as an AR in the squad and was then picked as a batsman in the XI basically because they expected him to provide better output than Khawaja, presumably. But either way, saying he also bowls "a little bit" is just plain wrong, whichever way you slice or dice it. It is totally ok if he said he was picked as a batsman for this game and left it at that. The second statement gives the feeling that this is what he thinks of his bowling when his selectors deemed it decent enough for him to be selected as an AR.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I don't think this is very important

 

[Burgey]

I don't think this is very important

I think you're right.

 

[Adders]

I don't think this is very important

Yeah, look I'm normally front of the queue when there's any Steve Smith bashing to be had.........but this is all a bit meh. Should just focus on his ugly head tbh.

 

[Daemon]

Jono should be infracted for starting this then running away

 

[Burgey]

It's so typical of Jono to do that.

 

[honestbharani]

And it is so typical for Jono to get credited with something I actually started too


I agree it is not that important but this is one of the things that makes me rate him pretty low as a captain and/or leader.

 

[hendrix]

See, it makes sense in the context of how he was picked for the XI. But this is no Moeen or Woakes situation where they were selected in the squad itself as primarily bowlers. Here, it is obvious that Henriques was selected as an AR in the squad and was then picked as a batsman in the XI basically because they expected him to provide better output than Khawaja, presumably. But either way, saying he also bowls "a little bit" is just plain wrong, whichever way you slice or dice it. It is totally ok if he said he was picked as a batsman for this game and left it at that. The second statement gives the feeling that this is what he thinks of his bowling when his selectors deemed it decent enough for him to be selected as an AR.

Yeah OK, but that's selectorial incompetence (and he is a selector as well, so incompetence on his part too), but it's not him being a dick or anything.

 

[TheJediBrah]

See, it makes sense in the context of how he was picked for the XI. But this is no Moeen or Woakes situation where they were selected in the squad itself as primarily bowlers. Here, it is obvious that Henriques was selected as an AR in the squad and was then picked as a batsman in the XI basically because they expected him to provide better output than Khawaja, presumably. But either way, saying he also bowls "a little bit" is just plain wrong, whichever way you slice or dice it. It is totally ok if he said he was picked as a batsman for this game and left it at that. The second statement gives the feeling that this is what he thinks of his bowling when his selectors deemed it decent enough for him to be selected as an AR.

again:

I think there's a bit of a cultural misunderstanding going on here. When someone says "bowls a little bit" in conversation, it doesn't always mean they literally only bowl a little bit. It sounded to me completely innocuous and is basically intended to mean "he's an allrounder"

To be quite serious, I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ of the reason that Indian/Australian cricketers get into conflict with each other is because of cultural and linguistic misunderstandings.

eg. Monkeygate

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah OK, but that's selectorial incompetence (and he is a selector as well, so incompetence on his part too), but it's not him being a dick or anything.

Fair enough. I just think it shows his immaturity as a captain more than anything else and I suppose he can improve and he is still a very young captain but as I said earlier, I just find it very easy to hate him. Unfairly on my part I guess.

 

[hendrix]

To be quite serious, I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ of the reason that Indian/Australian cricketers get into conflict with each other is because of cultural and linguistic misunderstandings.

eg. Monkeygate

I don't think it's a good enough excuse these days.

And anyway, the two people to bring this up were Aussies so...

 

[TheJediBrah]

I don't think it's a good enough excuse these days.

And anyway, the two people to bring this up were Aussies so...

Excuse for what? There's nothing there. Nothing to need an excuse for. Absurd reaction here as a result of misunderstanding such an innocuous and meaningless comment.

It's especially weird because, as I said, you don't need to go inventing things to hate Steve Smith for. There's plenty already there to choose from.

 

[Top_Cat]

Why are you ****s still going on about this non-issue? Move on already.