I've had enough, Virat Kohli.......

[Cabinet96]

Best post on any internet forum ever. Should be at the top banner on every forum.

Think it's nonsense tbh. Have been enlightened many times when arguing on the internet. It's the best way to learn about these things.

 

[honestbharani]

Given its a current world XI and Steyn's injury troubles his absence makes sense.

Yeah, but issue is how "current" is the "current"? That is just opening a pandora's box because they have just shifted goal posts where it suited them, as most people do with the selection of XIs. My point is just that there were more eye catching omissions than just Kohli over KW...

 

[Howsie]

Think the main reason why Kohli gets so hyped is because of how good he is in the shorter formats. A lot of pundits tend to let the latter influnence the former too much.

This is probably true.

Watching the test last night they kept bringing up the 'Fab four' whilst Williamson was at the crease. Most of the commentators were asked who they would take (and just guess who that was....) but Heath Streak said something pretty revealing. It was something along the line of 'He is just in such good form at the moment, what he did in the IPL was outstanding' I'd like to think cracking pundits could distinguish between the different forms of the game but they probably don't when it comes to making an opinion on a player.

 

[harsh.ag]

This might be even more true when it comes to former players. As a player, you place importance on the shorter formats as well since you have to be motivated for those games. And when a general question is asked, "Who are the best batsmen?", it makes sense to make use of the complete information set at your hand, even information which comes from the shorter formats.

 

[Prince EWS]

This might be even more true when it comes to former players. As a player, you place importance on the shorter formats as well since you have to be motivated for those games. And when a general question is asked, "Who are the best batsmen?", it makes sense to make use of the complete information set at your hand, even information which comes from the shorter formats.

Yeah I fully agree with this, but I think discussions of that nature have to have parameters otherwise they just become wishy-washy and inconsistent. You end up not only talking at cross-purposes but also using different criteria yourself all the time for your statements. I also think naming a mixed format World XI would be a weird concept, even though naming a mixed format 'best batsman' seems okay to me.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Think it's nonsense tbh. Have been enlightened many times when arguing on the internet. It's the best way to learn about these things.

I think you're just picky in who you argue with. Most of the internet arguments tend to be people stating their opinions and not considering the perspective of the other person behind their keyboard. It's what I usually end up doing anyway

 

[Black_Warrior]

Think it's nonsense tbh. Have been enlightened many times when arguing on the internet. It's the best way to learn about these things.

That might have more to do with who you are as a person and your willingness to learn. In general though, adults over a certain age don't usually change their minds, and certainly not on the internet because in real life social situations, there are social taboos and standards of decorum that also determine human behaviour. Even if people disagree, they might not be as vocal. On the internet, freed from all such social pressures, we tend to be far more aggressive, and 'politically incorrect' with our opinions. If people in general changed their minds based on arguments and reasoning provided, climate change wouldn't have been a 'debate'. Not trying to come across as a cynic but just a general assessment. Adults rarely change their minds once formed.

 

[Furball]

I assumed Cabinet was being sarcastic.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Oh right..probably..just read his post a second time.

 

[Burgey]

While on the subject of selecting XIs, I reckon this is a pretty decent attempt:

Ponting picks his greatest XI cricketers | cricket.com.au

 

[Zinzan]

Fairly predictable XI that, although thought Punter may possibly select Flintoff purely based on Ashes performances in '05 & '09 by opening with Kallis instead of Langer, batting Sanga at 3 and Flintoff at 6. Although suppose you'd hardly need to extra bowling resources with McGrath, Ambrose, Wasim & Warne in your line-up.

 

[Jono]

Good XI, seriously can't wahh about it, even if you're a Murali, Donald or Dravid fan.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ponting is one of those guys who's been surprisingly good post-retirement. Watching him play and captain a side you'd assume he's a raging arrogant prick who knows **** all about tactics but he's actually quite good. He's been great in the BBL.

 

[Jono]

Yeah Punter is awesome. I think he became an awesome guy post giving up the captaincy actually.

Being captain makes many people pricks I reckon, pressure must be just ridiculous.

 

[honestbharani]

I dunno y being a prick n being genuinely knowledgeable of the game and possessing tactical acumen have to be mutually exclusive. I still get the feeling he is a **** but have always felt he was tactically pretty good too. Remembering reading about the 99 Barbados test when it happened and how McGrath got a fifer once he took Ponting's advice and started attacking the stumps with his bowling. He was neither Captain or vice captain at that point too.

 

[marc71178]

Being captain makes many people pricks I reckon, pressure must be just ridiculous.

Nah, Kohli was a prick well before being made captain.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Shots fired.

 

[Jono]

People should know I've embraced Kohli's prickness, calling him a dickhead doesn't bother me. Because he's an entertaining dickhead.

Its people who turn dickheads like Smith that are ****. The boring type of dickhead who doesn't at least say anything outrageous.

 

[GIMH]

People should know I've embraced Kohli's prickness, calling him a dickhead doesn't bother me. Because he's an entertaining dickhead.

Its people who turn dickheads like Smith that are ****. The boring type of dickhead who doesn't at least say anything outrageous.

Smith was always a dickhead.

 

[Prince EWS]

Good XI, seriously can't wahh about it, even if you're a Murali, Donald or Dravid fan.

If I was going to wahh about anything it'd be him picking Langer.