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I wrote this a week ago. It is on for sure.
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*Official* Australia in Sri Lanka 2016
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Magrat Garlick
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Steven:-Peter Devereux Smith agrees
Starfighter
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I'd say it's less common these days, and his bowling style is focussed on dip and bounce. He bowled a great straighter topspinner-ish thing against WI, which is much more in line with his style. I think he'll keep picking up wickets in Aus and on firm wickets in general.
But in the subcontinent I think it's imperative to bowl a ball with fairly minimal turn and to focus more on sidespin and trajectory variation as well, which Lyon doesn't do.
Also I've noticed there's actually two deliveries going around as the 'arm ball' these days. The first is the one that gets the wickets in the SC, and Herath and co bowls, and spins more or less perpendicularly to the flight before skidding through straight. I think this was Swann's sort of 'arm ball' too, but I could be wrong.
The other is the classic arm ball, which is seldom seen these days. The slow seam up swinging ball like Murray Bennett bowled Viv Richards with at Sydney in '85.
Ashwin bowls the skidding type at 10:35 and the classic 'arm ball' at 3:42 against SL and you can see how two different releases create very similar effects.
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Doesn't, tho. Doesn't bowl out teams on day 4/5 in Oz either. Bloke is rarely carted but his RPO has only gone up over time too.
Migara
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Yeah, pick a rookie and bowl two overs, **** yeah. that's selection.
Starfighter
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Works =/= running through teams. He takes four wickets a test at a pretty good average, and it's not often we get a good last day spinning wicket here. Had a look at his figures and he's only slightly more expensive recently anyway. If he can stay at or improve upon how he bowled last summer, and sort out his SC game (and his record isn't horrible there anyway) I don't see why he can't play for a while yet. Just as long as we don't drop him for the latest legspinning sensation.
Precisely. If you told me when he debuted that he'd have 200 wickets by now I'd have laughed. And look how good Herath has been since turning 35.
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this is a deep cut.
Black_Warrior
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Yes second test..my bad.
Motorwada
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If we win the WI series 3-0 and England win/draw the series we are 1.
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He doesn't have the bonus of bowling to his own batting line up to pad out his stats either.
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I hate Brendon Julian so much. He criticized Neville for not reviewing his lbw which was obviously plumb... said he should've reviewed it "just for the heck of it". But then very next ball, when SL reviewed the Herath hattrick ball lbw, he slagged of the Sri Lankans for "wasting" their review. ( I know it didn't exactly look plumb in real time but still)
He's the worst commentator out there imo... he's consistently dumb, provides zero insight, is boring, biased and worst of all, never does even the bare minimum of research required for a commentary stint
He's the worst commentator out there imo... he's consistently dumb, provides zero insight, is boring, biased and worst of all, never does even the bare minimum of research required for a commentary stint
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It seems like a really basic concept but I don't really know whether the idea that you need properly different tactics in different conditions is actually getting through to the Australians.
One thing that was illuminating for me was when Brendon Julien was talking about Lyon's bowling.
"He should be aiming for wide of off stump, get them driving, bringing the ball back in through the gate and finding the outside edge when it goes straight on". i.e. classical offspinner plans.
Which would be fine, I'm not expecting mind-blowing tactics from the man here, except for the glaring fact that it was less than 30 mins after Russell Arnold was talking about how Perera was aiming to bowl straight, wicket to wicket and looking for the inside edge, and maybe the LBW for the straight one; despite himself also being a big-turning offspinner. Complete opposite bowling plans. Now I know they're commentators not coaches, but these guys do tend to hang around the team and have conversations and an idea of what's happening in training.
There's also the fact that the Australian batsmen have not really looked to sweep much. It's fine for everyone to "have their own plan" as seems to be coming from the Aussie camp, but then if you look at the guys who's actually batted successfully in these conditions over the past 20 years, they've all had a pretty similar method...
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It's not purely sweeping, but really stretching and smothering the ball that neuters Herath. The way Sarfraz, Shafiq and Younis did that against him last year was amazing to watch. They didn't jump out every chance they got like Clarke stupidly used to do (and Smith is doing now), just take one, long, measured stride down the pitch. Playing him from the crease is death in these conditions imo.