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***Official*** Australia in New Zealand 2016

kiwiviktor81

kiwiviktor81

International Debutant
I thought our batting was pretty good this series. We scored 1,215 runs at 30.4, against a bunch of guys mostly averaging around 25 with the ball, and half of that was in terrible batting conditions. Not a very good performance by any means but goodish.

The bowling was where Australia beat us. The Aussie batting is going at 54 runs per wicket in this series. You basically can't lose if you average more than 50 runs per wicket. Much of our bowling was cringeworthily bad. The sort of bowling you can get away with in ODIs but in Tests the opposition just wait for the bad balls. We were bowling a 4 ball in most overs this series.
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Jord said:
The only thing Williamson needs to work on is how to turn the stump line bowling that ties him down into the legside runs that allow players like Root and Kohli to compile in almost any match situation. Williamson even through his great summer has had plenty of patches where the bowlers get ontop of him and his scoring options are shut down and a lot of it comes from the fact that his front foot legside game isn't as good as it needs to be.
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I tend to think the first innings dismissal in the first test affected his play a bit - it was an attempted ODI-like push for a single that went wrong when the ball seamed in. Next two innings he came in when the team was in a bad situation, couldn't afford to get out and didn't play any such shots - just dead-batted those balls in the corridor. Australia were extremely accurate, moving the ball a bit and he'd put away the shots he would otherwise play to earn singles. It doesn't mean he doesn't those shots though, and would doubtless be playing those shots again against lesser bowlers or when the match situation is not that NZ is in a hole.
 
NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Nate said:
I don't think there are major changes needed for this Kiwi side to be highly competitive, perhaps just a few team tweaks. Plus the exposure to some of the Australian batting and bowling may well have long-term benefits. And if it helps at all, the team is quite likeable. :)
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Young side etc etc.

I mean if we're on track to play Australia in 2018/19 or whatever it was, you're still probably going to see everyone who played in this match with the obvious exception of McCullum, possibly Wagner (who knows if they'll ever have long term faith or consider him 'too old' by then) and maybe Guptill if he doesn't step up a notch. Despite Latham's inability to kick on he's still been our best opener since Richardson (random baz excepted) so I expect he'll still be around if he averages over 35. The exciting thing is the Australian team has players of equivalent age almost so theoretically the quality level next time round may be even higher.

But as it stands Australia are a far better team, as is shown. I think Adelaide is really the only Test where it could've gone either way and in that sense 4-0 is a bit harsh on the NZ team whereas 3-1 would actually be exactly right in terms of where the teams are at.
 
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Gob

Gob

International Coach
kiwiviktor81 said:
I thought our batting was pretty good this series. We scored 1,215 runs at 30.4, against a bunch of guys mostly averaging around 25 with the ball, and half of that was in terrible batting conditions. Not a very good performance by any means but goodish.

The bowling was where Australia beat us. The Aussie batting is going at 54 runs per wicket in this series. You basically can't lose if you average more than 50 runs per wicket. Much of our bowling was cringeworthily bad. The sort of bowling you can get away with in ODIs but in Tests the opposition just wait for the bad balls. We were bowling a 4 ball in most overs this series.
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Reverse swing was the difference
 
Jord

Jord

U19 Vice-Captain
TNT said:
NZ have a very poor record over the last five years, against Aus, SA, Eng, Pak and India they have played 26 tests winning just four.
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Australia have a very poor record over the last five years, against England, SA in Australia, India in India and Pakistan in UAE.
 
CM Punk

CM Punk

State Vice-Captain
Jord said:
Australia have a very poor record over the last five years, against England, SA in Australia, India in India and Pakistan in UAE.
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Aus won a series against a very strong SA team in SA. We're touring SA soon, and even with them not being in the best touch, I can't see us managing to win a game.

Amla, AB, Steyn, Rabada, Morkel and Philander are too good for us.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
NZTailender said:
Young side etc etc.

I mean if we're on track to play Australia in 2018/19 or whatever it was, you're still probably going to see everyone who played in this match with the obvious exception of McCullum, possibly Wagner (who knows if they'll ever have long term faith or consider him 'too old' by then) and maybe Guptill if he doesn't step up a notch. Despite Latham's inability to kick on he's still been our best opener since Richardson (random baz excepted) so I expect he'll still be around if he averages over 35. The exciting thing is the Australian team has players of equivalent age almost so theoretically the quality level next time round may be even higher.

But as it stands Australia are a far better team, as is shown. I think Adelaide is really the only Test where it could've gone either way and in that sense 5-0 is a bit harsh on the NZ team whereas 4-1 would actually be exactly right in terms of where the teams are at.
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You mean 4-0, right? Perth was drawn.
 
Nate

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
NZTailender said:
I mean if we're on track to play Australia in 2018/19
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I'm pretty confident that CricketWeb threads such as "What will your team look like in five years time?" have categorically proven that none of us know crap about the future. ;)
 
D

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Jord said:
With his technique, the moment his form drops, his average will plummet.

It's not like he's a Root, Williamson, Khawaja or Kohli level talent.
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Ugh this has literally no basis. And it ignores that fact that TPC is the hardest working **** in Australian cricket.
 
_Ed_

_Ed_

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Nate said:
I'm pretty confident that CricketWeb threads such as "What will your team look like in five years time?" have categorically proven that none of us know crap about the future. ;)
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That Richard Sherlock's going to be world-class...
 
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