Nah Ponting did it for over 100 more matches than Jonty.
You're just an inferior Kohli fanboy to hb and myself, obviously.
You actually dont agree with honestbharani. The only reason I was arguing with him was because he said that Ponting "wasn't in the running " to be in an ATG XI. That's utterly absurd. You can rate Kohli higher than Ponting as a batsman (as I do) and you can even rate him a better overall ODI cricketer (again, I probably do as well),but to say that Ponting isn't even in the debate is silly.
They were good at home and Zaheer was in those few years where he was on par with the best pace bowlers in the world, and clutch as hell.
Kohli's peak was pretty incredible. There was a period between 2012 to early 2014 where it seemed a Kohli century was a given every time we were chasing. I particularly remember his century in the first ODI against NZ in the series where India lost 4-0. IIRC it was his first ton where India ended up losing the match, but he nearly dragged them home by sheer force of will when everyone else was floundering against short-pitched bowling. Probably my favourite Kohli innings (and there's been a lot to choose from). I think there's an argument that his ODI peak even surpasses Tendulkar's.
He played some good knocks in 2015 also (against WI and Zimbabwe), though he struggled to accelerate coming in late in the matches where India batted first.They were good at home and Zaheer was in those few years where he was on par with the best pace bowlers in the world, and clutch as hell.
It wasn't a masterstroke of captaining for that team to get to the final, they were in the top 3-4 teams and they had great players who showed up when it mattered. I'm not saying he wasn't a good captain, just not enough of a great captain to have been the difference for that alone (or rather, in great part). The other players showed up, that's how I explain it. They always had the batsmen and their bowling attack clicked when it mattered.
I think it's a bit too much credit given to Dhoni for 2011 who largely was MIA until the final. It's the only WC knock he has of note as well. It's all well and good to talk about his positives, let's balance it out a bit. Or is that an agenda?
I don't think anyone said that though? The responses about the 2011 WC, the 2013 Champions Trophy were in response to someone suggesting he wasn't a good ODI captain. No one is saying he alone won the WC and CT.They were good at home and Zaheer was in those few years where he was on par with the best pace bowlers in the world, and clutch as hell.
It wasn't a masterstroke of captaining for that team to get to the final, they were in the top 3-4 teams and they had great players who showed up when it mattered. I'm not saying he wasn't a good captain, just not enough of a great captain to have been the difference for that alone (or rather, in great part). The other players showed up, that's how I explain it. They always had the batsmen and their bowling attack clicked when it mattered.
I think it's a bit too much credit given to Dhoni for 2011 who largely was MIA until the final. It's the only WC knock he has of note as well. It's all well and good to talk about his positives, let's balance it out a bit. Or is that an agenda?
Intriguing list. Would be interested to see it updated because I reckon that a SR of 90-odd achieved in the last few years (hello Hashim Amla) is less impressive than back in Tendulkar's day.
