Is Dhoni greatest OdI cricketer off all-time

[91Jmay]

Williamson is miles behind as things stand. Not even in the same galaxy as AB and Kohli. Yeah Starc could well do it, but he will likely be 'managed' during a lot of bilateral ODI series which will hurt his bulk stats.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Well behind AB yes, but closer to Kohli. In the last 3 years AB has averaged 64, VK 54, KW 53.

 

[GIMH]

Dhoni third after Nick Knight and Neil Fairbrother IMO

 

[91Jmay]

He isn't anywhere near Kohli yet. Kohli clearly will always have bulk stats that are better but leaving that aside he is legitimately in the top 10 ODI batsmen ever already because of his chasing ability + hundreds. Williamson not in that conversation.

 

[Gob]

Virat is way ahead of Amla imo. Michael Vaughan definitely underachieved in ODIs

 

[Gob]

He isn't anywhere near Kohli yet. Kohli clearly will always have bulk stats that are better but leaving that aside he is legitimately in the top 10 ODI batsmen ever already because of his chasing ability + hundreds. Williamson not in that conversation.

Yeah. Dunno whether I'd be able to fit KW in the top 25 atm

 

[Fuller Pilch]

He isn't anywhere near Kohli yet. Kohli clearly will always have bulk stats that are better but leaving that aside he is legitimately in the top 10 ODI batsmen ever already because of his chasing ability + hundreds. Williamson not in that conversation.

I agree with that. Williamson is also a world-class fielder and very useful part time bowler. Kohli is okay in the field and hardly ever bowls for one of the worst odi bowling sides

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Yeah. Dunno whether I'd be able to fit KW in the top 25 atm

Well he hasn't played 100 ODIs yet. He just got his first duck in 3 years which didn't help


Highest averages
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
RN ten Doeschate (Neth) 2006-2011 33 32 9 1541 119 67.00 1757 87.70 5 9 1 130 29
AB de Villiers (Afr/SA) 2005-2016 196 188 32 8411 162* 53.91 8389 100.26 23 47 6 744 181
MG Bevan (Aus) 1994-2004 232 196 67 6912 108* 53.58 9320 74.16 6 46 5 450 21
HM Amla (SA) 2008-2016 127 124 9 6014 159 52.29 6732 89.33 21 28 2 604 38
V Kohli (India) 2008-2016 171 163 23 7212 183 51.51 8016 89.97 25 36 10 673 72
IJL Trott (Eng) 2009-2013 68 65 10 2819 137 51.25 3658 77.06 4 22 5 216 3
MS Dhoni (Asia/India) 2004-2016 275 241 67 8918 183* 51.25 9989 89.27 9 60 8 691 192
TLW Cooper (Neth) 2010-2013 23 22 2 976 101 48.80 1391 70.16 1 8 0 82 4
MEK Hussey (Aus) 2004-2012 185 157 44 5442 109* 48.15 6243 87.16 3 39 3 383 80
Zaheer Abbas (Pak) 1974-1985 62 60 6 2572 123 47.62 3033 84.80 7 13 2 213+ 22+
KS Williamson (NZ) 2010-2016 91 85 9 3588 145* 47.21 4261 84.20 7 24 5 334 28

 

[Gob]

Well he hasn't played 100 ODIs yet. He just got his first duck in 3 years which didn't help


Highest averages
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
RN ten Doeschate (Neth) 2006-2011 33 32 9 1541 119 67.00 1757 87.70 5 9 1 130 29
AB de Villiers (Afr/SA) 2005-2016 196 188 32 8411 162* 53.91 8389 100.26 23 47 6 744 181
MG Bevan (Aus) 1994-2004 232 196 67 6912 108* 53.58 9320 74.16 6 46 5 450 21
HM Amla (SA) 2008-2016 127 124 9 6014 159 52.29 6732 89.33 21 28 2 604 38
V Kohli (India) 2008-2016 171 163 23 7212 183 51.51 8016 89.97 25 36 10 673 72
IJL Trott (Eng) 2009-2013 68 65 10 2819 137 51.25 3658 77.06 4 22 5 216 3
MS Dhoni (Asia/India) 2004-2016 275 241 67 8918 183* 51.25 9989 89.27 9 60 8 691 192
TLW Cooper (Neth) 2010-2013 23 22 2 976 101 48.80 1391 70.16 1 8 0 82 4
MEK Hussey (Aus) 2004-2012 185 157 44 5442 109* 48.15 6243 87.16 3 39 3 383 80
Zaheer Abbas (Pak) 1974-1985 62 60 6 2572 123 47.62 3033 84.80 7 13 2 213+ 22+
KS Williamson (NZ) 2010-2016 91 85 9 3588 145* 47.21 4261 84.20 7 24 5 334 28

I don't rate my top 25 OD players according to their averages

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I don't rate my top 25 OD players according to their averages

Really - I've always had Tom Cooper in my top 10

 

[91Jmay]

I agree with that. Williamson is also a world-class fielder and very useful part time bowler. Kohli is okay in the field and hardly ever bowls for one of the worst odi bowling sides

Kohli is a really good fielder. Very bizarre critique.

 

[indiaholic]

I would pick a bowler as the greatest ODI player of all time. Seems like a rarer and hence more valuable quantity. Maybe one out of McGrath, Garner or Murali.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Dhoni third after Nick Knight and Neil Fairbrother IMO

Top post.

 

[Black_Warrior]

I would pick a bowler as the greatest ODI player of all time. Seems like a rarer and hence more valuable quantity. Maybe one out of McGrath, Garner or Murali.

You're talking about picking a bowler as the greatest ODI player and you're talking about mortals instead of God?

 

[vcs]

Williamson will be right up there by the time he's done, guy's a run machine. It's pretty much as close as you can get to a certainty.

 

[marc71178]

I don't rate my top 25 OD players according to their averages

Clearly you're right to. Nationality should be the first point of reference...

 

[Chrish]

This thread is asking for greatest "cricketer" tho not just "batsman". With dhoni, you will get ATG finisher, brilliant captain (overall career) and excellent keeper.. Not sure if any other player brings that much to the table

 

[Chrish]

Williamson will be right up there by the time he's done, guy's a run machine. It's pretty much as close as you can get to a certainty.

In OdI he ain't no AB or Kohli. Agree in test. Guptil deserves a mention. Guy has been gun recently

The reason why I don't rate Amla high is due to his failure when heat is on. Aside from WC, he even fails in bilaterals when chasing a semi- decent score

 

[cnerd123]

How the **** did the convo become about KW??

 

[91Jmay]

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