2016 Under 19 Cricket World Cup

[hendrix]

i.e. you can have a just law, and you can have an unjust law.

e.g.

a) Blacks cannot own property.
b) Domestic abuse is illegal.

Just because a) was a law years ago doesn't make it something that's equal in it's justness to b).

 

[Compton]

I've never taken much time to consider this law, largely because anytime it's brought up I sort of just wish the bowler had just bowled the ****ing ball.

 

[91Jmay]

I am not calling for any sanction of the player, so the legal aspect for me is irrelevant. I simply think it is a cheap way to win and isn't something I'd ever do myself.

 

[StephenZA]

Disappointing for Zim... was so hoping they would get through.

Don't like the Mankad, it is perfectly legal but that does not make it acceptable.
Practically , the solution would to make it dead ball until the bowler bowls the ball, rather than start of run-up, this makes more sense to me. People will say that allows the batsmen to take advantage, but just make it illegal to leave the crease until the ball is bowled. With technology as it is today it is easy enough to penalize the batsmen. But I don`t think this will ever happen. This for me is in the same bracket as when the ball hits the wicket while running and the batsmen take an extra run, just does not make sense to me. But hey that's cricket.

As far as people deriding the 'spirit of cricket' idea and saying the rules are the rules...many things in life are legal still does not make it acceptable to do them, there is still socially acceptable behaviour.. Jumping a queue is not going to get you sent to jail, but you would still be a prick for doing it....

 

[Garson007]

People will say that allows the batsmen to take advantage, but just make it illegal to leave the crease until the ball is bowled. With technology as it is today it is easy enough to penalize the batsmen.

Being run-out is the penalty! Or would you prefer docking runs or something equally ridiculous?

 

[Stefan9]

Disgraceful behavior by the West Indies, this is no way to win. Might be fair in the rules but its certainly not in the spirit of the game.

 

[Stefan9]

Being run-out is the penalty! Or would you prefer docking runs or something equally ridiculous?

Yes I would prefer penalty runs if the batsman is stealing ground as it is similar to when a bowler bowls a no ball imho.

 

[StephenZA]

Being run-out is the penalty! Or would you prefer docking runs or something equally ridiculous?

I would prefer an alternate penalty to the run-out. Don`t forget I stipulated that until the ball is bowled it is dead ball, thus you cannot be run-out on a dead ball. They changed the rules quickly enough to say that a ball lodged in the batsmen's pad was dead ball so you could not claim a catch! This is all similar for me..

 

[Dan]

Nah, look, if you want to steal ground backing up as a batsman, go for it. But don't complain when you get run out for doing it.

The reason I'm less enamoured by this one is that it wasn't in response to a batsman taking that risk, it was a Hail Mary hoping the batsman was **** at timing his backing up. The batsman can't complain -- he was dopey enough to be out of his crease -- but FMD its such a bloody cynical tactic to try.

I wouldn't mind for a No Ball to be called when the Mankad is attempted. Small penalty to stop people attempting it cynically when a batsman isn't​ trying to steal ground (intentionally or otherwise).

 

[Dan]

i.e. bringing the Mankad in line with Law 24.4 and 42.16

 

[Beamer]

Not impressed with that at all. Leaves a sour taste in the mouth after what was shaping up to be an absolute thriller. That's not the sort of thing West Indian teams are known for and it's a huge shame to see our Under 19s behaving like that.

Such a shame as I loved every second of Alzarri Joseph's performance. He's the best young quick I've seen since Rabada at the last Under 19 World Cup. Pace, discipline, bounce and killer instinct. I agree with Bish, he should be in and around the Test team straight away.

 

[Bahnz]

In general I don't have an issue with mankading and really don't get why people belive that its ethicaly dubious. Nonetheless, it is a convention of the sport (rightly or wrongly) that the bowling side give the batting side a warning prior to attempting a mankad. That puts the Zimbabweans in this case at a significant disadvantage and leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.

 

[Beamer]

I think the umpires should be clamping down on batsmen stealing yards as I see so many do it. But this was still not the way to behave and was opportunistic rather than moral.

I'm not impressed and as I said before, it spoilt my enjoyment of some excellent young talent.

 

[Franco Vazquez]

No wonder WI team is drowning.They deserve it

 

[Bahnz]

Also not 100% convinced that that should've been out. Yes his bat was on the line in the frame where we first see the bail removed. But one needs to remember that this is the reverse of a normal run-out with the bat going from a position of safety to a position of danger. Just because no part of the bat was behind the line in the frame when the bail was lifted, doesn't necessarily mean that was the case at the precise instant when the stumps were broken. Arguable that benefit of the doubt should've applied.

 

[hendrix]

Yes I would prefer penalty runs if the batsman is stealing ground as it is similar to when a bowler bowls a no ball imho.

that would be impossible to police.

Also not 100% convinced that that should've been out. Yes his bat was on the line in the frame where we first see the bail removed. But one needs to remember that this is the reverse of a normal run-out with the bat going from a position of safety to a position of danger. Just because no part of the bat was behind the line in the frame when the bail was lifted, doesn't necessarily mean that was the case at the precise instant when the stumps were broken. Arguable that benefit of the doubt should've applied.

Yeah actually wanted to make this point too

 

[Franco Vazquez]

Few days ago Namibian player walked even though he wasn't given out..............I have seen only Indians defending this act

 

[hendrix]

i'm not Indian.

 

[Franco Vazquez]

I am not talking about but Ashwin,Harsha,Akash Chopra......

 

[hendrix]

sounds racist.