AndyZaltzHair
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great crowd deserved a match like this
Because all the other bowlers are crap sadly.why is afridi bowling now?
well maybe not too many options
They'd have got one. So it'd have been level scores with a ball to go.If he was run out, do they still get the 1 run ? Or nothing?
agreed,Pakistan limited overs cricket is finished, their is a chance they may pull out of the t20 world cup for political reasons and they should, only going to be competitive against Zimbabwe at the moment.
Got to feel for Amir and Wasim, young lads when they come into the squad next year, will be expected to elevate this rubbish to competitiveness. Only Afridi and Malik would get a look in any other t20 side of the current selection.
They should, they dominated both series ultimately.Pakistan were way to reliant on Afridi and Malik heroics in the last 2 games to make it close. The new generation unfortunately flopped. Rizwan was probably the biggest let down, he was absolutely horrible against spin. The rest?agreed,
England must be feeling great for winning the revenge ODI and T20 series.
To be honest, as bad as the results were, I think the team is kind of in the right direction. My reasons are that up until the World Cup, Pakistan were losing ODIs consistently because the core group of players just did not have the right skill set and the team as a whole was way way behind the rest of the world.They should, they dominated both series ultimately.Pakistan were way to reliant on Afridi and Malik heroics in the last 2 games to make it close. The new generation unfortunately flopped. Rizwan was probably the biggest let down, he was absolutely horrible against spin. The rest?
We know the majority of them are not good enough, we can talk about positions, roles etc, but most of them have been around for a while now and have not shown enough despite the mitigating circumstances.
The only players that if other international sides had the option of signings for limited overs cricket that would be considered would be Malik, Misbah and Afridi, when you consider their age, that is frightening and bizarre when you consider how much Pakistan love limited overs cricket.
I am not saying they all the younger players we seen this series are doomed to mediocrity, but so many of them looked very bad. Rizwan when spin came on was horrid, Anwar as we seen today, just is not good enough, he may have a few eye catching performances here and their, but you won't beat quality opposition with him in the side.
Tanvir is Tanvir, at times can look good, but ultimately when you sit down and look at his overall numbers he just is not that good of a bowler. He is also an abysmal finisher as well. Its frightening that people were considering him as an all rounder not to long ago. Irfan is a poor death bowler and worthless in the field and with the bat.
Umar is Umar, you see glimpses, but is so erratic.Maqsood? A pointless player if you have Umar in the side.
I'l give Azhar a pass though, as I think he is horribly out of form, rather than been found out or not good enough. Gohar also something about him as well.
That is it really though.
I have banged on to much about Amir in this thread, I think and even his biggest fan which is probably himself would admit that while he strengthens the side when he returns, their is only so much one man can do.
I was in a foul mood Yesterday so apologies, I bet England to win at 3.25, but for small stakes and was fuming with myself for not putting more money on.To be honest, as bad as the results were, I think the team is kind of in the right direction. My reasons are that up until the World Cup, Pakistan were losing ODIs consistently because the core group of players just did not have the right skill set and the team as a whole was way way behind the rest of the world.
Now, with the current ODI team, they are still behind the rest of the world, but there is a decent team in there somewhere..they just don't have the right combination, right strategy and management of players yet. With Hafeez unable to bowl, Pakistan are extremely flustered about how to get a guy who can bowl 6-7 overs and give you runs with the bat.
Watching Azhar since the BD series and he has really adapted to the ODI format. I won't say he is necessarily out of form, I think he was in great form when he took a break for personal reasons and just looked under cooked since then (starting with the test series).
He has since then gone back to FC cricket and scoring runs so I am pretty sure Pakistan have a few good solid years of ODI batting from Azhar.
The second opener is the question and I for one would give Sami Aslam a decent chance but unfortunately Selfie will get preference over him
But there's a decent middle to lower order in Hafeez, Malik, Azam, Haris, Rizwan, Wasim and Sarfraz somewhere. It's just not clicking at the moment, and they are not batting at one position consistently, but if the management realizes that this is a pretty decent ODI batting order and prepares specific strategies and roles for them accordingly, I think this team can compete.
The bowling - Irfan has been excellent. No complains here.
Now the second opening bowler is the issue here. Pakistan keep playing Anwar Ali because they want someone who can bat but the guy averages 58 with the ball. You can't have a new ball bowler with that record.
I think they need to go back to either Junaid or Rahat or hewhoshallnotbenamed
Wahab should not be playing so many ODIs and T20s and by the end of the T20 he just looked like someone who has bowled too many overs.
They have to look at other options like Rahat or Sohail Khan (who is now fit and is a very good death over bowler).
Imad Wasim and Yasir Shah can be the two spinners or if they want don't want to play 2 spinners, they can try Aamer Yamin who is a decent medium pace bowler who can bat a bit.
If you look at the LO series, the major mistakes were that of running between the wickets, wrong batting order, wrong bowlers bowling at the wrong times. These things can be rectified with the right thinking.