**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

[Black_Warrior]

Heh. But this is Australia I'm talking about. Collapses have been all too common in the last 5-7 years - I'm just not convinced we can consistently keep on scoring runs.

Rarely at home though.

 

[NUFAN]

So 370/4 today, another 370/4 tomorrow and they're quids in

Not if its NZ 4/52 and Aus 0/318

 

[Black_Warrior]

can't have been if ross "worse than voges" taylor handled it with ease. starc must be a medium pacer.

 

[Cabinet96]

Tbf to Morgie, I don't think he's saying they're "due" a collapse or are more likely to have one because they've been dominating. Just that the lineup is prone to collapses.

 

[Daemon]

I really hope there's some quick runs scored from both teams tomorrow and a ballsy declaration day 5 from Smith, because McCullum will surely try to pounce on the proverbial carrot.

 

[Dan]

tbh I do think that if the Australians are going to collapse, they'll do it here. Batting under something resembling pressure for the first time this series, and they'll probably try to stay aggressive too.

 

[morgieb]

Rarely at home though.

Eh, it's happened more than you give credit for. Ashes 2010/11, Hobart 2011, Perth 2012 (against South Africa), and there's been a few minor ones averted. None of them that recent though, in fairness.

 

[Cabinet96]

The interesting thing about this match is that one side may really regret scoring as quickly as they did.

 

[Spikey]

i've done the stats and there's a 33.333 chance of a lol collapse tomorrow

 

[Black_Warrior]

The interesting thing about this match is that one side may really regret scoring as quickly as they did.

Which side?

 

[GotSpin]

Well done to NZ today.

Its been a pretty disappointing test match to be honest. I guess I get a bit bored when both teams just pummel the bowlers around for three days. The best moment of the test match was Starc getting fired up with the second new ball and NZ batsmen fighting to survive but still scoring runs.

While I doubt anything will change, if these pitches continue to be the norm in Australia I would really like a new ball being available every 60 overs.

Im glad the WACA will lose its test matches. What a rubbish wicket its been

 

[Cabinet96]

Which side?

Whichever loses

 

[Spark]

The interesting thing about this match is that one side may really regret scoring as quickly as they did.

I don't think we'll regret our scoring rate, tbh, because when we were scoring quickly on Day 1 we also were batting much better. It's more the aimless Day 2 batting and the needless drive to the 550 declaration that we'll regret.

 

[Flem274*]

Well done to NZ today.

Its been a pretty disappointing test match to be honest. I guess I get a bit bored when both teams just pummel the bowlers around for three days. The best moment of the test match was Starc getting fired up with the second new ball and NZ batsmen fighting to survive but still scoring runs.

While I doubt anything will change, if these pitches continue to be the norm in Australia I would really like a new ball being available every 60 overs.

Im glad the WACA will lose its test matches. What a rubbish wicket its been

this test is set up to be awesome. since the starc spell the game has gone up several levels.

 

[Cabinet96]

Im glad the WACA will lose its test matches. What a rubbish wicket its been

While the WACA isn't what it used to be, it's still produced more interesting wickets in the last few years than either the Gabba or Adelaide.

 

[GotSpin]

this test is set up to be awesome. since the starc spell the game has gone up several levels.

I just dont like a test match that sees both teams easily calk up 500+ scores.

 

[GotSpin]

While the WACA isn't what it used to be, it's still produced more interesting wickets in the last few years than either the Gabba or Adelaide.

This one has been awful though.

 

[Prince EWS]

tbh I do think that if the Australians are going to collapse, they'll do it here. Batting under something resembling pressure for the first time this series, and they'll probably try to stay aggressive too.

Yeah but that has nothing to do with the gambler's fallacy argument morgieb was making. That's a perfectly valid point.

 

[GotSpin]

I don't think we'll regret our scoring rate, tbh, because when we were scoring quickly on Day 1 we also were batting much better. It's more the aimless Day 2 batting and the needless drive to the 550 declaration that we'll regret.

I hope Steve learns a lesson from this test match because this could have easily happened in the last as well.

When its an absolute road, just bat and bat

 

[morgieb]

Well done to NZ today.

Its been a pretty disappointing test match to be honest. I guess I get a bit bored when both teams just pummel the bowlers around for three days. The best moment of the test match was Starc getting fired up with the second new ball and NZ batsmen fighting to survive but still scoring runs.

While I doubt anything will change, if these pitches continue to be the norm in Australia I would really like a new ball being available every 60 overs.

Im glad the WACA will lose its test matches. What a rubbish wicket its been

On this, one thing I did find interesting was the constant criticism of the Kookaburra's. I can see the balls changing at least, and that might help a little bit. Also in England I remember a lot of criticism about the Trent Bridge pitch last year due to how flat and slow it was, since then the pitches have been a lot more bowler-friendly IIRC and a pretty good contest between bat and ball.

Now traditionally Australian wickets are a fair bit flatter than English ones (or at least it rains less so there's less swing on offer), but it wouldn't surprise me if assuming there's a draw here we start to see more even sort of wickets, like what we saw around 2011-2013. Especially given post-Harris Australia's bowling isn't that amazing (still our strength, but not to the extent that it was a couple of years ago).