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**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Miserably unhappy I had to do a dreadful exam over the glory of Williamson, still looked in control this morning?
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Kohli is massively over rated for tests. Rate Pujara, Rahane and Vijay higher than him till he sorts out his issues.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Yeah he was saying "Bracewell has actually bowled quite well"...

No.

No no no.
i forgot to call you out on your doug comments the other day. not because they were neccessarily untrue right now but because it's very sad to see an opening swing bowler try to transform into a hit the deck third seamer for the good of the team and then end up as not quite either and be a disappointment.

i want my ***y doug outswing back. he gets that back he has a decent chance of making it at this level and repeating his debut season.
 

OverratedSanity

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i forgot to call you out on your doug comments the other day. not because they were neccessarily untrue right now but because it's very sad to see an opening swing bowler try to transform into a hit the deck third seamer for the good of the team and then end up as not quite either and be a disappointment.

i want my ***y doug outswing back. he gets that back he has a decent chance of making it at this level and repeating his debut season.
Yeah what is it with NZ doing this? Henry was forced to do this in England too. If you just want a Wagner, pick Wagner instead of ruining other young bowlers.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
i forgot to call you out on your doug comments the other day. not because they were neccessarily untrue right now but because it's very sad to see an opening swing bowler try to transform into a hit the deck third seamer for the good of the team and then end up as not quite either and be a disappointment.

i want my ***y doug outswing back. he gets that back he has a decent chance of making it at this level and repeating his debut season.
yeah but he hasn't been that way in 4 years; whether the team plan ruined him or he's done it himself it doesn't matter.

And frankly I'm skeptical of the extent to which that Doug ever existed. I know Kip has shown vids of ***eh outswing Doug but his action has never been that out a consistent swing bowler but those times when he did pitch it up and swing it were places where everyone was swinging the ball. We don't think of Siddle as a swing bowler but he'll swing the ball in the right conditions. I think that's what Doug should aim for but I doubt he'll ever get there.

Even those 5 wickets against SL he wasn't really swinging it; the "natural variation" where the ball kinda cuts back in was there which is nice but meh.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah what is it with NZ doing this? Henry was forced to do this in England too. If you just want a Wagner, pick Wagner instead of ruining other young bowlers.
Apparently Wagner himself was made to do this as well - used to be more of a swing bowler too. He did well to do as well as he did, in hindsight.

With that said I'm not sure either of Wagner or Bracewell is good enough anyway.

Duffey is our man.
 

Flem274*

123/5
he doesn't swing it anymore because he last pitched one up about four years ago

i hate his length he's developed. really really hate it. he does get the ball to randomly keep low here and there and his length just ruins any chance it has of catching someone out

and your boy duffy is at least 12 months away from being near this team.
 

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