***Official*** South Africa in India 2015

[Contra]

Urgh. Not the kind of situation you want Rahane to bat in.

Which is exactly why he's not in lolol..

 

[cnerd123]

Urgh. Not the kind of situation you want Rahane to bat in.

Clearly MSD agrees.

Rahane with run a ball needed in the last 10 is worse tho

 

[ankitj]

Dhoni at batting at #4. My dream coming true

 

[Contra]

Rahane with run a ball needed in the last 10 is worse tho

No it's not, Rahane is good enough to score run a ball. If it's like 90 off 60 then yeah you'd have a point but a run a ball or close to it run chase should be doable for most quality batsmen.

 

[cnerd123]

No it's not, Rahane is good enough to score run a ball. If it's like 90 off 60 then yeah you'd have a point but a run a ball or close to it run chase should be doable for most quality batsmen.

Nah Rahane really struggles with rotating the strike and finding gaps when the field is spread out. It's why he is better higher up the order than later in. He can take advatange of the fielding restrictions, and build a platform without having to worry about scoring quickly.

 

[Burner]

Is this the batsman Dhoni? Very good. You see him block sp often when India are in trouble that you forget that he can bat like this...

 

[Contra]

Nah Rahane really struggles with rotating the strike and finding gaps when the field is spread out. It's why he is better higher up the order than later in. He can take advatange of the fielding restrictions, and build a platform without having to worry about scoring quickly.

If Rahane is not good enough to steer through a RUN A BALL chase in the last 10 overs, then he doesn't deserve to be in the team period. We're not talking 40 off 20 or 55 off 30 or something like that, we're talking RUN A BALL. Which means 20 off 20, 40 off 40 etc.

 

[cnerd123]

Wouldn't say he isn't capable, he just isn't suited for it. There are a lot better batsmen we could pick if thats the role we are asking of him.

 

[Contra]

Wouldn't say he isn't capable, he just isn't suited for it. There are a lot better batsmen we could pick if thats the role we are asking of him.

Exactly and that's why he needs to either improve or wait until someone in the top order has a horrible run of form to get a position at the top.

FTR I rate him much more than most when it comes to finishing an innings.

 

[cnerd123]

Gotta belt this Behardien over

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

come on get a wicket and make this more interesting. atm looks like india will cruise

 

[cnerd123]

Exactly and that's why he needs to either improve or wait until someone in the top order has a horrible run of form to get a position at the top.

FTR I rate him much more than most when it comes to finishing an innings.

I think we get a lot more value with Rahane at 3 and Kohli at 4/5 than Kohli at 3 and some hack at 5. Rahane isnt just a magical batsman but also our best fielder, and Kohli has the potential to be a Bevan-esque finisher.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

SA missed on 300 or so thereabouts after the start when kock and du plessis build a partnership. 270 just not good enough here

 

[duffer]

Shot.

 

[Contra]

I think we get a lot more value with Rahane at 3 and Kohli at 4/5 than Kohli at 3 and some hack at 5. Rahane isnt just a magical batsman but also our best fielder, and Kohli has the potential to be a Bevan-esque finisher.

I disagree with that notion because Kohli's value deceases if he comes in later on, so you have to choose between which of the two players are likely to offer more output from the same position. We are also seeing the value of Dhoni being able to come in @ 4 and effortlessly form a partnership. I love Rahane but it's just lame to try to "fit him in" and dilute the productivity of other batsmen.

 

[cnerd123]

Why would Kohli's value decrease later in the innings? He can hit big shots, runs hard, finds the gaps so well, and is masterful at pacing a runchase. If anything he's more vulnerable at 3, given he has issues with the moving ball outside his off stump.

 

[Contra]

Why would Kohli's value decrease later in the innings? He can hit big shots, runs hard, finds the gaps so well, and is masterful at pacing a runchase. If anything he's more vulnerable at 3, given he has issues with the moving ball outside his off stump.

Which he did so wonderfully in the first ODI...

 

[G.I.Joe]

IMO Dhoni absolutely needs to bat at 4, which means Kohli bats 3 because he'll be wasted at 5. That leaves no other option but 5 for Rahane.

 

[cnerd123]

Which he did so wonderfully in the first ODI...

Sample size of.1. GG. Rahane also has 2 fifties at 3, which suggests he is a good fit for the role.

IMO Dhoni absolutely needs to bat at 4, which means Kohli bats 3 because he'll be wasted at 5. That leaves no other option but 5 for Rahane.

Really would like to see them give Rahane-MSD-Kohli a decent run for a while. If Kohli absolutely stinks it up at 5, then perhaps drop Rahane and start exploring the alternatives.

 

[smash84]

India should have no problems if these guys manage to stick until the 40th over