*Official* English Football Season 2015-16

[GIMH]

Coutinho - meh. Do not rate.
Sturridge - good player, injured far too often to call him an unqualified success.
Handling of Sterling - not sure I get what you're going at here, Sterling isn't at the club in part because of Rogers' handling of him.

Lol give it up RE Coutinho lad

 

[Furball]

Fjortoft is saying it's going to Klopp.

If they wait a couple of weeks then Mourinho will be available.

 

[Uppercut]

Coutinho - meh. Do not rate.
Sturridge - good player, injured far too often to call him an unqualified success.
Handling of Sterling - not sure I get what you're going at here, Sterling isn't at the club in part because of Rogers' handling of him.

Sturridge and Coutinho are huge successes. Think about the fee they paid and the fee they'd get for them now.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Carraghers damning indictment of Liverpool "they're becoming Tottenham"

becoming more and more impressed with him of late. Not scared to criticise Liverpool like so many of their ex player pundits are. Souness about the only other one who says it as it is. You know he wants them to do well but he isn't afraid to slag them off if they deserve it, probably learnt from Neville but refreshing to see.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Sturridge and Coutinho are huge successes. Think about the fee they paid and the fee they'd get for them now.

Was speaking to my dad earlier and we said the only players he had signed who were better than what he inherited were Coutinho and Clyne and neither of us could remember who signed Sturridge.

Rest of the money has been wasted.

 

[Ikki]

Coutinho - meh. Do not rate.
Sturridge - good player, injured far too often to call him an unqualified success.
Handling of Sterling - not sure I get what you're going at here, Sterling isn't at the club in part because of Rogers' handling of him.

Sterling was just a youth prospect before Rodgers. Frankly, the trust Rodgers gave to play him so much and effort to improve him tactically counts for me. The guy is a greatly well-rounded attacking player at 20; I think much of that has to do with Rodgers' insistence of giving him responsibility on both ends of the pitch. Even Henderson was one foot out, almost at Fulham, before he managed to turn it around under Rodgers. Flanagan in that title chase played brilliantly (he's been injured since) and I never thought of him as more than a League One player. I think a lot of his best work was developing the players - even Suarez credits him quite a bit re positioning and movement; and I don't put that down to a symbolic compliment but something real as Suarez did improve quite a bit with Rodgers.

He knows his football and basically every player really commented very positively on him and his training. I just think as Uppercut said he'd lost the players somewhat, especially towards the end of last season. We've had a lot of change over in the players as well, much not having anything to do with Rodgers, and that had also hindered him.

I feel this is the right choice, but at the moment it looks like a really bad time. The season has been frustrating but hardly catastrophic. You'd expect that it would take him a couple months, especially with so many new players, to get it together. So if they were giving him a shot; they should have given him longer.

But if they get the right guy, then who knows. I just hope FSG know what they're doing. Their ownership period is a bit mixed and it's hard to gauge what they want since they also seem to change it so often. They're about to appoint the 4th manager in 5 years.

 

[Niall]

I think LVG getting his selection and tactics completely wrong is the story for Utd here. Hopefully the last time he starts a big away game with no Schneiderlin. Also Valencia at RB rather than going with the Young fudge was essential, given how well he's handled Sanchez in the past. And obviously we need Rooney replaced with a footballer.

Better 2nd half, albeit with the massive caveat that Arsenal had completely stopped trying.

I think they were riding their luck a little this season with the selections and today against the best side they encountered, it got messy. 2 midfielders in defense and of course as you say the central midfield, LVG got it very wrong.

It didn't help that Rooney was their as well. LVG should bring in Jones as centre half to partner Smalling and then play a proper full back instead of Young and Valencia who despite their effort are not natural full backs which is why they have been exposed recently.

I actually thought Darmien was the worst player on the pitch in the first half, obviously plenty of competition!

Strange after such a epic start to the season, he has thrown in some absolute horrid performances.

 

[sledger]

I know you're trolling but it's thoroughly deserved. They've gone from almost Champions in 2013/14 to utter ****e in less than 18 months, despite the manager being given hundreds of millions to spend. Sure, any team would suffer from losing a world class player like Suarez but it was Rogers who replaced him with Balotelli and Lambert.

I can't think of a signing he's made who would go down as an unqualified success, and he spends vast sums of money on players who don't seem to fit into his preferred systems.

My post was a partial troll. But there is an element of seriousness to it. I mean, for one, I honestly believe that anyone who at the start of the season thought that anything higher than a 6th place Liverpool was realistic, or even worse, expected, is absolutely out of their tree. If Liverpool finish higher than 6th, that really has to be considered an overachievement for mine, given what's ahead of them. Liverpool are in midtable, I don't really get why this comes as a surprise to anyone. Granted they peed a load of money up the wall on strange signings, I can see why people would be more than a little peeved about that, but all things considered, their performance this year is more or less what I would expect from a team with the squad they have.

 

[sledger]

Carraghers damning indictment of Liverpool "they're becoming Tottenham"

Honestly, at the moment I think Liverpool would do well to be more like Tottenham. Not that they're any great shakes either, but...Liverpool....

 

[Niall]

Liverpool FC Fixtures and Results 2015/16 - This Is Anfield

Liverpool results for the season.

I don't know the line ups or how serious they are taking the 2 cup competitions so reluctant to comment on them, although they are in the next round of the league cup and are not dead in Europe.

So premiership results, the only absolute howler is West Ham home 3-0.

However the same West Ham have won at Arsenal and City.

No other results you would consider horrid, United are not what they were, but still formidable at home and I recall them been very unlucky against Norwich.

Draws at Arsenal especially after today and Everton far from poor results either.

 

[GIMH]

My post was a partial troll. But there is an element of seriousness to it. I mean, for one, I honestly believe that anyone who at the start of the season thought that anything higher than a 6th place Liverpool was realistic, or even worse, expected, is absolutely out of their tree. If Liverpool finish higher than 6th, that really has to be considered an overachievement for mine, given what's ahead of them. Liverpool are in midtable, I don't really get why this comes as a surprise to anyone. Granted they peed a load of money up the wall on strange signings, I can see why people would be more than a little peeved about that, but all things considered, their performance this year is more or less what I would expect from a team with the squad they have.

Nah come on you can't say that finishing above Spurs would be an overachievement per se.

Worth considering that Chelsea are **** and one of Liverpool or Spuds could blag a CL spot if they put a run together and Chavs don't turn things around quickly. Especially if the scousers get a decent manager.

 

[Cabinet96]

People use being like Tottenham as a criticism as if Tottenham haven't had one of the lowest net spends in the PL for the last five years and finished 6th at worst. Liverpool would do well to be like them because it would mean similar results in the last season and a bit without spending so much money.

 

[sledger]

Nah come on you can't say that finishing above Spurs would be an overachievement per se.

Worth considering that Chelsea are **** and one of Liverpool or Spuds could blag a CL spot if they put a run together and Chavs don't turn things around quickly. Especially if the scousers get a decent manager.

Perhaps overachievement is too strong, a word, but I think they would do well to finish above Spurs, and from what I have seen so far this season I'd be surprised if they manage it.

As for the second point... "If wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean".

 

[sledger]

People use being like Tottenham as a criticism as if Tottenham haven't had one of the lowest net spends in the PL for the last five years and finished 6th at worst. Liverpool would do well to be like them because it would mean similar results in the last season and a bit without spending so much money.

Exactly.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

If they wait a couple of weeks then Mourinho will be available.

This would honestly be the greatest thing ever to happen.

 

[GIMH]

Perhaps overachievement is too strong, a word, but I think they would do well to finish above Spurs, and from what I have seen so far this season I'd be surprised if they manage it.

As for the second point... "If wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean".

Well if the Ancelotti or Klopp rumours are true would you be all that surprised if they managed it?

 

[sledger]

Less surprised.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

The world is mostly an ocean tbf

 

[Furball]

Sturridge and Coutinho are huge successes. Think about the fee they paid and the fee they'd get for them now.

Sturridge obviously has far more positives than negatives as a signing but I don't think he's an unqualified success given how often he's been injured.

 

[sledger]

The world is mostly an ocean tbf

I knew there was something wrong with that phrase.